Gemmill 46030 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Jermaine Jenas actually seems a decent enough pundit tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7170 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Pardew actually used the terms 'we was' and 'fret' on the radio after the game ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Is it just me or does Charnley look like he's straight out of the Ant Hill Mob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Jermaine Jenas actually seems a decent enough pundit tbf. "Black people don't understand football" /FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10965 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 "Black people don't understand football" /FA He could have tucked his shirt in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4857 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Anyone got a link of the highlights or goals? Â Â http://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/2kdhbv/postmatch_thread_tottenham_hotspur_1_2_newcastle/ goals in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10965 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Full match: http://www.torrentdls.com/download/780808/26.10.2014.Tottenham.v.Newcastle.2.ES.576i.ts.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Sammy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22149 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014   http://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/2kdhbv/postmatch_thread_tottenham_hotspur_1_2_newcastle/ goals in here  cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I only saw the highlights on MOTD but what was noticable was how often Janmaat was totally clueless at defending.Centre Parting was poor at defending but Janmaat has brought poor defending to a higher ( lower ) level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10965 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Is Janmaat your new Mbiwa? Y'know, now that it's obvious to everyone how wrong you were about Mbiwa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 If a player was shit for us,for whatever reason,it still means he was shit for us.I've read all the excuses why he was shit,but nobody other than me has come out and said it.Janmaat is a shit defender.He may improve.I hope he does.Maybe you have excuses for him.Maybe you disagree with me.Maybe you think a defenders job is to go walkabout when the opposition are attacking down our right hand side.Maybe you think a defenders job is to allow balls to come into the box.Maybe you haven't a clue what a defenders job is.Maybe you are a makem who want's Pardew to keep picking him to weaken our defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4857 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Â If a player was shit for us,for whatever reason,it still means he was shit for us.I've read all the excuses why he was shit,but nobody other than me has come out and said it.Janmaat is a shit defender.He may improve.I hope he does.Maybe you have excuses for him.Maybe you disagree with me.Maybe you think a defenders job is to go walkabout when the opposition are attacking down our right hand side.Maybe you think a defenders job is to allow balls to come into the box.Maybe you haven't a clue what a defenders job is.Maybe you are a makem who want's Pardew to keep picking him to weaken our defence. Maybe I'm amazed at the way I really need you. Â HOUSE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10965 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 If a player was shit for us,for whatever reason,it still means he was shit for us.I've read all the excuses why he was shit,but nobody other than me has come out and said it.Janmaat is a shit defender.He may improve.I hope he does.Maybe you have excuses for him.Maybe you disagree with me.Maybe you think a defenders job is to go walkabout when the opposition are attacking down our right hand side.Maybe you think a defenders job is to allow balls to come into the box.Maybe you haven't a clue what a defenders job is.Maybe you are a makem who want's Pardew to keep picking him to weaken our defence. Right, by your own admission you're the only one who still thinks Mbiwa is shit (and don't give me any of that "Shit for us" caveat nonsense), could it not be that you're wrong about Mbiwa and you're wrong about Janmaat? Â Debuchy took a while to settle and then it was clear he's a good right back, Enrique took a while to settle and then it was clear he's a good left back, Coloccini took a while to settle and then it was clear he's a good centre back, etc. etc. Given you know more about sunderland than most mackems, I find it interesting that you look to project that on someone else. Â Â Â HOUSE! Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I think any defensive position is the hardest to settle into really - particularly in the premier league. Â Debuchy got a lot of stick for a long time but it was fairly obvious to see he was a top class player. Regards Janmaat - he's part of a defence that's fairly poor overall so it's probably harder for him. Â Dummett annoyed me for their goal - he was caught ball watching, completely unaware Adebayor was behind him and for some reason he didn't even jump for the cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35583 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Nah, you're shit unless you hit the ground running in the PL. Â Â Â HOUSE! Â SPACEBAR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 If a player was shit for us,for whatever reason,it still means he was shit for us.I've read all the excuses why he was shit,but nobody other than me has come out and said it.Janmaat is a shit defender.He may improve.I hope he does.Maybe you have excuses for him.Maybe you disagree with me.Maybe you think a defenders job is to go walkabout when the opposition are attacking down our right hand side.Maybe you think a defenders job is to allow balls to come into the box.Maybe you haven't a clue what a defenders job is.Maybe you are a makem who want's Pardew to keep picking him to weaken our defence.Never mind this, get to the important part. What do those tramps down the A19 think about the result. We're all on tenterhooks here man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 It's quite funny reading back through this thread from complete gloom right until 8 seconds into the second half. I don't think there's any need to critise Pardew at all about yesterday, it was a great result for us (against an admittedly poor bunch of cockney makems) and he made positive changes that worked pretty much perfectly. No doubt he will quickly go back to the negative shite that he loves and he'll deserve the abuse that he gets then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I think we started the game as bad as we've ever been under Pardew - we were utterly listless and lacking in anything that would justify the title 'Newcastle United Football Club). Our only blessing is that Tottenham weren't a great deal better. Of course the second half tells it's own story but we really need to learn to attack games from the off - because we certainly have the players to do it. Â It seems the more we worry about other teams the more we actually give those worries foundation, Pardew's taught them to be scared of their own shadows. Fair play he rescued us this time with some obvious desperation subs - but he could make things much easier for himself. It's not rocket science - long ball to Cisse doesn't work - never mind Ayoze who is a little shorter. Â Amoebi was saying that the plan for the second half was to ''get in behind'' the Spurs players - as if that isn't the plan for every game of football on earth. Â In the end we probably could have had 3 or 4 - but the ref was hopeless too. There was a time Cabella was going to be in on goal from the right but he was wiped clean out - nothing given but it could have been a red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I said after the Palace game that it looked like Pardew had drilled it into them to be terrified of Zaha and I think in general this is one of his tactical plans. He focuses so much on what the opponents can do and how to stop them that he forgets that the best way is to keep the ball away from them by enforcing our game onto them. It's like he's trying to be some sort of tactical genius in finding ways to nulify the oppostion but all that ends up doing is inviting teams onto us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I think Carver said that Pardew spends 4 days of the week working on defense & ''shape'' & on the 5th day Carver/Stone devise a plan to beat a team - or something to that effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 You'd certainly never guess we spend 4 days a week practicing defending like but the one day attacking looks plausible although I'm probably surprised it's so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7170 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Good, bad or indifferent, Janmaat regularly forgets there's a left winger he's supposed to be defending against Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10965 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Good, bad or indifferent, Janmaat regularly forgets there's a left winger he's supposed to be defending against  Seems to be a problem all of our right backs have struggled with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Janmaat has been poor defensively so far, I think there is a good defender in there though. Maybe needs longer to settle, but we said that about Mbiwa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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