Dr Gloom 21923 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 must be pretty annoying as an aussie fan to lose the best batter in the world for a year. still hard to argue that the punishment didn't fit the crime. sandpaper ffs - how did they reckon they'd get away with that? penny for @Ken's thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35082 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 4-0 ftp probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11270 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 12 months sounds a long time, but any shorter and they would have been available for the next Test series anyway. They could have banned them from Test cricket for 12 months and other forms for 6 months, I suppose. It will be interesting to see what happens when Warner says something. I doubt he will take it on the chin completely (unlike Root) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35082 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Smith deserves a lifetime ban just for taking advice from Warner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I see Smith has said he has no knowledge of it happening previously. Not exactly an unequivocal it hasn't happened. I think it's highly unlikely it's not gone on before probably with Warner instigating. There's quite possibly other younger players who are feeling very relieved they haven't been caught and chucked under the bus like Bancroft has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Lehman going now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35082 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I like Lehmann but, like I said, it reflects badly on him whether he knew or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 21 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: must be pretty annoying as an aussie fan to lose the best batter in the world for a year. still hard to argue that the punishment didn't fit the crime. sandpaper ffs - how did they reckon they'd get away with that? penny for @Ken's thoughts They deserve the punishment. Warner is a cunt, he should never play for Australia again. Smith is stupid for thinking he'd get away with it. There's no hiding anywhere on the field. WTF was he thinking?!? The backlash has been hard. Being captain of the Australian cricket team is the 2nd most important position to hold behind the PM etc etc. So on and so on... The fact Smith had no idea that the ramifications of his actions that were caused in that post-match press conference hadn't hit home outraged me personally. Immature. Not worthy. Having said that, Smith is a rabble now. This has become a mental health issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35082 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Feel a bit sorry for Bancroft in that he was put in a bad situation by much more senior players and could well see his international career never recover. I know he's not a kid etc. but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, Ken said: They deserve the punishment. Warner is a cunt, he should never play for Australia again. Smith is stupid for thinking he'd get away with it. There's no hiding anywhere on the field. WTF was he thinking?!? The backlash has been hard. Being captain of the Australian cricket team is the 2nd most important position to hold behind the PM etc etc. So on and so on... The fact Smith had no idea that the ramifications of his actions that were caused in that post-match press conference hadn't hit home outraged me personally. Immature. Not worthy. Having said that, Smith is a rabble now. This has become a mental health issue. that's the amazing thing. how the fuck, with all the cameras these days, did they expect not to be noticed? beggars belief. and smith, as captain and the best batter in the world, should have known better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Alex said: Feel a bit sorry for Bancroft in that he was put in a bad situation by much more senior players and could well see his international career never recover. I know he's not a kid etc. but still. Yep. Agree. I think Bancroft is fine if he can keep his form. Not on the same salary as Smith and Warner which makes a difference. Smith didn't take the first question in THAT press conference, he left it to Bancroft. Not lost mate, thrown someone under a bus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said: that's the amazing thing. how the fuck, with all the cameras these days, did they expect not to be noticed? beggars belief. and smith, as captain and the best batter in the world, should have known better. No excuses. Immaturity. Dumb. Fools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35082 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, Ken said: Yep. Agree. I think Bancroft is fine if he can keep his form. Not on the same salary as Smith and Warner which makes a difference. Smith didn't take the first question in THAT press conference, he left it to Bancroft. Not lost mate, thrown someone under a bus... Aye, it's all a bit unsavoury. I would normally have a giggle at Australia being in disarray but it feels like this is bigger than all that, with the integrity of the entire game being at stake somewhat. Smith will wish he stood down now but it seems he felt this was just a storm in a teacup initially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 It will be interesting to see how this effects them going forward. I agree Warner is a cunt and as such I don't think it will effect him so much. It might do much more damage to Smith and it would be a shame if this was the defining moment of his career as he is clearly a world class player. Some people would find it very difficult just to come back to their best after such a long time out, let alone with something like this hanging over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35082 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 46 minutes ago, David Kelly said: It will be interesting to see how this effects them going forward. I agree Warner is a cunt and as such I don't think it will effect him so much. It might do much more damage to Smith and it would be a shame if this was the defining moment of his career as he is clearly a world class player. Some people would find it very difficult just to come back to their best after such a long time out, let alone with something like this hanging over him. I agree. With his French cricket-style of batting he's not a batsman I particularly enjoy watching but it's ridiculously effective and he's quite possibly / probably on his way to being an all-time great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 his technique looks all over the shop with all his fidgeting and trigger movements, but if you look at his head position at the moment he takes strike, it's pretty much in line with the ball and straight out of the text book. you'd think he'd be a prime lbw candidate, ugly-looking player, shuffling all over the shop, but it works for him and you can't argue with his stats. another thing he seemed to have going for him was his timing and his mental strength to convert 50s into tons and to bat for time. i genuinely thought when he and root were both averaging in the mid 50s, that root was the one who would kick on and become the best in the world - he is certainly the better looking batter to watch - but it's gone the other way. root has struggled to make really big scores in the past year or so, smith looked different class during the ashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I haven't seen this many Australians crying on TV since Scott and Charlene got married Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15526 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Tweets embed automatically if you paste the link 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 What's with the sanctimony, Mr Waugh? website: http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/22961057 Absolutely spot on, especially about dishing it out but not being able to take it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Good read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11270 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Very good read, as was the article linked relating to Graeme Smith. Aussies are notorious for not being able to do anything other than abuse, but the number of times they have been undone by humour is legendary. http://www.cricketsledges.com/top-twenty-cricket-sledges/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 disappointing result to end a pretty miserable winter tour for england Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Aye I watched the first hour or so and it was a great start to the day. Plenty of work to do before the summer let alone next winter methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35082 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Who could've predicted this? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/44081146 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 summer hasn't started until a day's play is lost to bad weather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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