Dr Gloom 21923 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Yet another daddy hundred for cook. Shame no one could go big with him. Another example of root making 50 them getting out rather than cashing in like smith. Good first innings lead but we still haven’t completely batted them out of the game, which we would have done had just one other player made a ton alongside him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) Cook now has more test runs than Lara Edited December 28, 2017 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 26 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Cook now has more test runs than Lara Played many more tests though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 21 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: Yeah, he’s got 5 or 6 test match tons despite batting in every spot 1-9 Not sure what Moeen was doing today. White ball cricket hasn't started yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Tried to slog his way back into form by the sounds of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Ken said: Played many more tests though. Most of which he opened in England against the duke ball. His average of 47 for an openener who has played half his tests in English conditions is up there with the best ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Tried to slog his way back into form by the sounds of it No idea what his role was this series, me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Most of which he opened in England against the duke ball. His average of 47 for an openener who has played half his tests in English conditions is up there with the best ever. As an openererer he has excelled, credit where it is due. The best English batsman since Wally Hammond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Not the most pleasing on the eye but you have to admire his tenacity and determination. And his concentration levels. This isn’t the first time he’s ended a barren run with a massive score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 30 minutes ago, Ken said: No idea what his role was this series, me. He’s never been the greatest spinner but he has been able to pitch in with wickets, where as in this test he has looked completely toothless. Not helped by injury but when you compare his performances with the amount of turn Lyon has been able to get you have to question his role in the team. As a spinning all rounder he has excelled for us but he’s only our frontline spinner because a lack of options. his batting form looks to have been affected by his non performances with the ball. He has been excellent in 2017 up until this tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted January 3, 2018 Share Posted January 3, 2018 I see Crane is in the team for tonight. Should have played against the West Indies but glad to see us finally try to get in someone who's job it is to actually spin a ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Textbook England on this tour - play pretty well then throw away a good position very quickly. Another failure to play a captain’s innings from root and convert a 50 into a ton after doing the hard work. It’s starting to become a bit of a habit for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35082 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Pleased I listened to the last half hour's play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 So it was your fault you jinx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35082 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Kiss of death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 don't think 350 is enough on this surface. suspect we're heading for 4-0 or a draw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 32 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: don't think 350 is enough on this surface. suspect we're heading for 4-0 or a draw Agreed. A draw is the most likely outcome here unless the pitch degrades enough for Lyon to trouble your batsmen. Be happy with a draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 I'd be delighted to get out of Australia with a 3-0 at this stage. Enjoyed watching Broad and Curran giving it a go this morning and the Aussie catching was a joy. Pretty glad I fell asleep for our bowling though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Calling a draw was premature. The wicket is turning big time so Lyon will definitely be amongst it in the 2nd innings. Mason Crane looks a canny leggy. His figures don't do him justice, great flight and turn. The lad has a good career ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Only 20 too. Struggling to draw too many positives from this match though and the whole tour tbh. England seemingly incapable of turning promising positions into match winning situations. And our bowling is toothless on certain surfaces down under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 43 degrees out there today. Must be a bit of a test out there in the field. I almost feel sorry for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 12 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: Only 20 too. Struggling to draw too many positives from this match though and the whole tour tbh. England seemingly incapable of turning promising positions into match winning situations. And our bowling is toothless on certain surfaces down under. Your touring debutants have fared well tbf - Stoneman and Malan. You'll never be a threat here unless you develop players with genuine pace - Jofra Archer looks likely but I don't know what his status is, talk that he has to wait a few years before he can represent at international level. I have a soft spot for leg spinners, I appreciate their craft, I hope Crane can kick on from here. The kid certainly has a bit of heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44879 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 4 nowt it is then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Poor management to think we’d have a chance touring down under with a bowling attack comprised entirely of medium fast swing bowlers and without a frontline spinner. Vince’s series went just as we expected. Lots of classy-looking cover drives in several starts before nicking off to slip. Has to be dropped for NZ. Malan one of the few bright spots. He deserves a run at 5. Moeen has to be picked as a batsman first and foremost with his spin bowling a bonus. He isn’t consistent enough with the ball to be considered a frontline spinner. And his position should be under threat if he doesn’t make scores in NZ. Unfortunately crane’s figures don’t suggest he is ready to step in. Maybe give Jack Leach a go. It’s easy to blame our demise on stokes but we’d have lost even if he had toured. We need to get unearth at least one bowler with genuine pace before the next time we tour here or it’ll be the same story again. Don’t think wood with his injury record is the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Was interesting to hear Boycott's view on our preparation for the series. It really couldn't have gone much worse when you think about it. We had three batsmen who had massive question marks over them ahead of the series (with only Malan coming through the test), no first choice spinner, no pace in the attack without Wood, the Stokes situation and warm up games against the equivalent of playing Cramlington seconds. If we want to improve as a test side and be able to win games away from home, the ECB needs to seriously look at changing things so we aren't so one dimensional. I'm not sure there will be any great desire to do this mind as there's not many teams in the world who can really look good away from home. India were imperious at home last year but got stuffed by S.A. in the first test this week. It's going to end up with another problem for test cricket because the crowds are already dwindling and if series aren't competitive it will only get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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