David Kelly 1224 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Or probably Ballance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 yeah, probably ballance a couple of years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34954 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Lets not throw this away now. Think that's Vince's time up for a while unless he gets a chance in the 2nd innings. Shane Warne apparently said Moeen should be batting at 4 or 5 with Root now having moved to 3. There's some logic to that. Allows you to play an extra spinner (or seamer) if it comes off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) i think moeen is definitely too far down the order at 8. he's a proper batter. his average would go up if he wasn't always batting with the tail. woakes could easily bat at 8, or higher Edited July 22, 2016 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Lets not throw this away now. Think that's Vince's time up for a while unless he gets a chance in the 2nd innings. Shane Warne apparently said Moeen should be batting at 4 or 5 with Root now having moved to 3. There's some logic to that. Allows you to play an extra spinner (or seamer) if it comes off.Think that's probably a good shout actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Shame ballance walked just before the close. He batted patiently but the jury is is still out as to whether he's going to make it at this level. Ditto Vince. All in all though, an excellent first day. Should be aiming for 500+ from here with plenty of batting still to come. Looking forward to seeing stokes and bairstow bar with that cushion of plenty of runs on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Woakes gets his 50. He is starting to look like a genuine all rounder. Exciting to have him and Stokes in be same team, boosting batting and bowling. Arguably the best night watchman in test cricket too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Doesn't look like moving Root to 3 has created two problems after all. What a knock that was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1224 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Why the fuck are we not enforcing the follow on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Bizarre. Apparently a 391 run lead isn't enough. The return of cautious captain cook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44569 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Cook is such a bell at times. They haven't even bowled 40 overs today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 They could have had a real go at them under grey skies and drizzle with no time for their batters to settle going off and on. They surely can't win from here. Literally no point in batting on, other then increasing the chances of a draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1224 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I assumed it must have been to make sure Anderson and Stokes had extra time to recover with them just coming back from injury. Couldn't believe it when Farbrace did his interview with Ward and said it was to make sure we didn't put ourselves under any pressure and have to play on a pitch that was breaking up. How much pressure could we have ever been under with that lead? Ridiculous. Almost want it to rain to show them how ridiculous it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9321 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Absolutely correct decision with over 2 days left, only way you could lose from that position is to enforce follow on and end up chasing a score on the worst of the pitch. You can't play for rain. Bat on hour or so today and then finish them off over rest of today/tomorrow and as a bonus you've made their bowlers really toil. If there'd only been a day and half left, different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44569 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Too much gunpowder has addled your brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34954 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 There arguably wasn't enough time in the game for them to have lost given the time Pakistan would have had to have batted for to set up an awkward target. I think it's moot anyway as they'll win and would've won if they'd enforced the follow-on yesterday. Can see the logic either way but I think it was the right decision. Why even give Pakistan a glimmer of hope? This way you put more pressure on them because it's virtually impossible for them to win and they still have to bat for 5-ish sessions to save the match. I don't see that as negative at all. It's what the great Aussie sides would've done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44569 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Not enough meat in your diet has addled your brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Absolutely correct decision with over 2 days left, only way you could lose from that position is to enforce follow on and end up chasing a score on the worst of the pitch. You can't play for rain. Bat on hour or so today and then finish them off over rest of today/tomorrow and as a bonus you've made their bowlers really toil. If there'd only been a day and half left, different story. there's no way they would have chased down 391 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 534 run lead and still they're batting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34954 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Both want their 2nd century in the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 yes, it looks like cook and root are having a race to the ton, which is all good fun, but they're eating into the time left to bowl them out and there's rain forecast tomorrow. there is no way on earth pakistan are going to come out to try and chase down this total. they'll play for the draw and will be lucky to secure it, so why give them more of a chance to do so by limiting the time we have to bowl at them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34954 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Can't really understand why they're still batting like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 if they win, they'll be able to say they were vindicated but i don't see any logic in this at all other than boosting their averages. they might have been better off putting vince and ballance in to try to boost their confidence a bit if they just fancied a spot of batting practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 finally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21869 Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 just the 564 run lead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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