The Fish 10858 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 25 squad players Player (*=Home grown) Abeid, Mehdi *Ameobi, Samuel Anita, Vurnon San Benito Cabella, Remy Cisse, Papiss Demba *Colback, Jack Raymond Coloccini, Fabricio De Jong, Siem *Dummett, Paul *Elliot, Robert Ferreyra, Facundo Gouffran, Yoan Gutierrez, Jonas Manuel Haidara, Massadio Janmaat, Daryl *Krul, Timothy Michael Obertan, Gabriel Antoine Riviere, Emmanuel Santon, Davide Sissoko, Moussa *Taylor, Ryan Anthony *Taylor, Steven Vincent Tiote, Cheik Ismael *Vuckic, Haris *Williamson, Michael James Under-21 players (Contract and Scholars) Aarons, Rolando Alnwick, Jak Armstrong, Adam James Atkinson, James Lewis Barlaser, Daniel Tan Bigirimana, Gael Broccoli, Stefan Cameron, Kyle Milne Campbell, Adam Charman, Luke Cobain, Jamie Anthony Drennan, Ben Gibson, Liam Steven Gillesphey, Macauley Gilliead, Alex Nicholas Good, Curtis Gutierrez, Ayoze Perez Hall, Andrew Heardman, Tom Holmes, Jamie Jason Hunter, Jack David Johnson, Louis James Kemen, Olivier Kerridge, Joseph George Laidler, Adam Lascelles, Jamaal Longstaff, Sean David Mbabu, Melingo Kevin McKinnon, Ryan Newberry, Michael Olley, Greg Thomas Pearson, Brendan Conor Pollock, Ben Quinn, Jonathyn Stephen Roberts, Callum Satka, Lubomir Smith, Ben Joseph Smith, Liam Phillip Sterry, Jamie Michael Storey, Jordan Jay Streete, Remie Suddick, Lewis Ethan Trodd, Allan Jake Ward, Daniel John Williams, Callum Dylan Woodman, Frederick John Woolston, Paul Hudson Only those in bold should be the 1st team of a club aiming for the top half. Only those in Italics should be squad for that club. Krul Janmaat Colo ____ Santon Tiote Anita/Colback Sissoko De Jong Cabella ______ Williamson Abeid Cisse Ferreyra Riviere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Williamson is a perfectly serviceable, no nonsense CB imo. As long as he has a bit of quality alongside I'd embolden him for his cromulent displays. Think much of his criticism comes from being a conduit for every set piece which comes to nothing over the halfway line. Which isn't really fair. Can't remember who, but I agreed with whoever said he's someone who always plays at the peak of his ability, which you can't say for most of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I don't have massive problems with Saylor or Raylor (assuming he can return to the levels he was before injury) as squad players tbh. Neither of them should be starters at any time other than an injury crisis though. Your assesment of the missing ingredients to the starting 11 is blindingly obvious to everyone but Ashley/Charnley/Pardew (if you believe his shite which I personally don't) or it would have been addressed this summer. At the start of the summer we needed three things. Creativity, a striker to lead the line and a centerback. One of those things was addressed with a combination of SDJ and Cabella (and to a small extent Colback). The other two have been shamfully dismissed (and in the case of the defence actually made weaker). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Williamson is a perfectly serviceable, no nonsense CB imo. As long as he has a bit of quality alongside I'd embolden him for his cromulent displays. Think much of his criticism comes from being a conduit for every set piece which comes to nothing over the halfway line. Which isn't really fair. Can't remember who, but I agreed with whoever said he's someone who always plays at the peak of his ability, which you can't say for most of them. His peak really isn't good enough to be a starter though is it? I've no problems with him as a squad memeber though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10858 Posted September 4, 2014 Author Share Posted September 4, 2014 Williamson is a perfectly serviceable, no nonsense CB imo. As long as he has a bit of quality alongside I'd embolden him for his cromulent displays. Think much of his criticism comes from being a conduit for every set piece which comes to nothing over the halfway line. Which isn't really fair. Can't remember who, but I agreed with whoever said he's someone who always plays at the peak of his ability, which you can't say for most of them. As you say, he's playing at his peak, and frankly it's just below the standard I'd want for a club aiming for top half. Sure there are some games where that's sufficient, because he's facing either sub-par strikers or a sub-par system. When he meets a good striker or a good system, his limitations fill me with dread. I don't mind him marking Altidore or Carroll, but put him against Benteke or Aguero and I piss my little pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21941 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Willo over Tayls for me like. Though ideally it would be neither of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Willo over Tayls for me like. Though ideally it would be neither of themI'm sure everyone would agree with you there. Everyone except CT who of course would disagree just to argue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 The best thing about Williamson is he knows his limitations. So that makes him a serviceable back up or a starter for a lower prem side. Taylor likes to think he is far better then he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accadacca 0 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The best thing about Williamson is he knows his limitations. So that makes him a serviceable back up or a starter for a lower prem side. Taylor likes to think he is far better then he is. Taylor will be back in on Saturday - mind having seen Hernandez last night, it could be a torrid afternoon for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Anita in bold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10858 Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 Can't be arsed to get into it, especially with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Me either, your track record for talking shit speaks for itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10858 Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 You just crack on being incomprehensibly delighted that we're not doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The standard counter argument for the deluded optimist when he realises his foolishness. I can't win either way, can I? Either I'm wrong or revelling in our misfortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 You do seem to revel in it though I'm not sure people would think this so much if you didn't have that smiling doctor in your avatar mind, it just seems to make your posts all the more likely to infuriate - previously you had a beaming Pardew as well. You need a David Moyes avatar or something like that, something a bit more downbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4728 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The standard counter argument for the deluded optimist when he realises his foolishness. I can't win either way, can I? Either I'm wrong or revelling in our misfortune. btw, who were you before csd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44935 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 thompers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 btw, who were you before csd. ocd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4728 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 thompers ???? Idont recall a Thompers between 2008 - 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 You appear to be suggesting we get rid of the weaker players. Williamson etc... are more than good enough for 8th - 17th. They are squad players who's pay reflects it. Top half isnt really a dividing line - after Spurs/Everton the rest are much of a muchness. All you need is a decent spine of a team to help the weaker players. Krul, (a younger) Colochini, Cabaye, Ba - finished 5th, with Simpson et al, who are as bad as the current squad fillers. The best possible spine these days is Krul, (a slow) Colochini, Tiote, De Jong.... All we need to do is fix the spine with someone like Grenier and replacement for Colochini and we'll be in the same bracket as Everton and Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30633 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 All we need to do is fix the spine with someone like Grenier and replacement for Colochini and we'll be in the same bracket as Everton and Spurs. No. No we won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Howay man Phil, Spurs and Everton have good players all over the park. We're far behind those teams and always have been under Ashley. The year we finished 5th we were remarkably fortunate with our injury record, Ba and Cisse were in ridiculous purple patches, Cabaye and Tiote formed a brilliant uninterrupted partnership and Colo had the season of his life. As well as all that most of the big sides had an off year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10858 Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 All we need to do is fix the spine with someone like Grenier and replacement for Colochini and we'll be in the same bracket as Everton and Spurs. It's much more than that, but again it depends on the football we play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Howay man Phil, Spurs and Everton have good players all over the park. We're far behind those teams and always have been under Ashley. The year we finished 5th we were remarkably fortunate with our injury record, Ba and Cisse were in ridiculous purple patches, Cabaye and Tiote formed a brilliant uninterrupted partnership and Colo had the season of his life. As well as all that most of the big sides had an off year.Spurs have a massively squad of slightly above average players. Two or three players and we are easily on par with Everton. Baines and Pienaar are on the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30633 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 On the wayne tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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