The Fish 10963 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Well I don't see it as 2 goalless games, I see a continuation of last seasons toothless shitness. And my faith in Pardew is zero. Literally. Even in preseason we were generally struggling for goals. Relegation battle? honestly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31201 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 The bar man switched the channel over five minutes from the end in favour of the 2.30 from Cartmel. I didn't protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Think we were all aware if we didn't get a Tier 1 striker there could be problems. Btw the reason Cabellars slows it down is that he has to wait for support with only one tightly marked striker in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 Relegation battle? honestly? Second half of the season was relegation form. We've lost 2 of our better players from a relegation team form. Remy's goals definitely haven't been replaced, that could land us in trouble. I'm not saying it's nailed on. But if we go into an early season slump, do you have faith in Pardew to turn it round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31201 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 We all may be aware but Pardew isn't, or at least he's feigning ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35583 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Little bit of an over reaction after 2 games non? Cabellars and Siem will take time to adjust to the pace of the PL and so on...We can start the doom and gloom after 6/7 games if nothing changes. Football changes very quickly. The Cabella and Siem chances were actually harder to miss.. Think last week was a record for the number of debutants for us and that was excluding De Jong. It'll obviously take a while for them all to gel / adapt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 Think we were all aware if we didn't get a Tier 1 striker there could be problems. Btw the reason Cabellars slows it down is that he has to wait for support with only one tightly marked striker in the box. Na he even did it a couple of times when we were breaking today, Villa were on the back foot and we were surging forward on the counter and he would pull it back and slow it down, allowing Villa's players chance to get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Na he even did it a couple of times when we were breaking today, Villa were on the back foot and we were surging forward on the counter and he would pull it back and slow it down, allowing Villa's players chance to get back. I'm as disappointed as you mate...If you check my pre-match comments...I agree Cabellars is a little in love with himself and maybe not in a good way like Hatem who takes risks and runs through defences for fun. Gouffran is the touchstone of the Pardew nonsense...Runs around a lot and err runs around a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14052 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Gouffran is completely ineffective in his favoured positions (out wide and up front) so Pardew decides to put him in central midfield rather than drop him You couldn't make it up with Pardew tbh. The problem I have with bedding in players is that I don't trust Pardew to do it and change the style to suit the players. He'll shoe-horn them into his system which is completely ineffective and has been for 2 years now, a brief period with an inspired Cabaye aside. And that was the issue with today's game; aye, the players need to settle (and that's a valid point) but it was the same style and set-up we had last year and he's going to have Cabella out wide, Sissoko out wide, an isolated striker up top, a lot of hoofing, no movement etc. It just doesn't work. Cabella needs to toughen up as well. He'll be identified as a creative, tricky player and defenders will clatter him about. There's no point staying down and whinging about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I'm still not sure what Anita brings to the team either, I want him to do well but every game seems to pass him by, without doing anything of note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Don't be shy man, say what you really think. Aye that was just before I boarded my flight today so was a bit cranky. Seeing the result upon landing has done little to lift my mood, bunch of bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4827 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I'm bordering on couldn't give a fuck anymore. No, really? Mind you're spending a lot of time posting , not giving a fuck anymore Bit like Ant. 1 post to tell us he wasn't watching the match and 2 or 3 post match comments to tell us how he didn't watch the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Bit like Ant. 1 post to tell us he wasn't watching the match and 2 or 3 post match comments to tell us how he didn't watch the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4222 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Was initially gutted to have missed this due to work but I gather I didnt miss much. Definitely need that striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Only Premier League club to have not scored after 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 3110 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Wish we had someone at the club who could have picked his way through that Aston villa defence... Can't think of anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Only Premier League club to have not scored after 2 games. Relegation it is then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inochi 0 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Last season, we lost our first game 4-0, and followed it up with a turgid 0-0 at home to West Ham. Plenty of people were crying 'relegation' then, too. What makes it all the funnier, is that these same people will be the ones who talked with excitement about our new signings, boldly stating that they'd need time to settle and they wouldn't write them off after two games. Well... Yesterday wasn't even that bad. We looked compact, solid, and exactly like a team with a load of new players, individually trying to impress. The need for an out and out goalscorer is painfully obvious, but we're not getting one. The hope is that De Jong transforms our attacking play, and at least one of our gambles finds some form. Pleasingly, he did look a class above in terms of composure and link up play when he did come on. Cabella will settle, he looks incredibly tense at the minute, but he's a young lad dealing with an incredible weight of expectation. We won't be pulling up any trees this season, but we'll be comfortably top half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Think it's a lot more than the need for an out and out goalscorer, but the lack of any sort of attacking fluidity and ability as a team to create chances for whoever is our centre forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inochi 0 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Aye, that's why I mentioned that the hope there is in De Jong, and Cabella settling, improving that aspect of our play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Two pretty average teams TBH No-one on our side looked as if they could hit a barn door - we showed some decent passing touches mind They need to learn that banging long high balls into a defence that has shown in the first 15 minutes that they have it under control is a waste of time Sisoko was always a handful but Villa hardly played for a win - if you are going to play counter attacking football you need pace and decent balls over the top - they had neither TBH I counted a total of three saves from BOTh 'keepers The ref had a bad gane - he got a lot wrong for both teams but Wiliamson should have had a straight red for that tackle late itneh game - it was a real horror. I've been to Villa a lot over the years to see us play but it was eerie yesterday - sitting high up in the Trinity Road stand there were thousands of empty seats behing us and there were large gaps even in the Holte End - never seen that in 40 years Fair play tho - they all rose for the 17 minute tribute - not soemthing you'd have seen at some other places I can think of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35583 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 No, really? Mind you're spending a lot of time posting , not giving a fuck anymore Bit like Ant. 1 post to tell us he wasn't watching the match and 2 or 3 post match comments to tell us how he didn't watch the match. I know I don't really care that much any more and I think it's a failry common sentiment, judging by people I know who've stopped going and the views they express. I think it's Ashley's biggest crime. You could argue expectations have been just as low (or lower) in the past and we've certainly had worse sides but I can't ever remember so much much apathy towards the club. We're a boring, nothing of a club with a very conservative outlook and a dull nonentity of a manager, so it should hardly come as a shock that people are being turned off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4827 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 I know I don't really care that much any more and I think it's a failry common sentiment, judging by people I know who've stopped going and the views they express. I think it's Ashley's biggest crime. You could argue expectations have been just as low (or lower) in the past and we've certainly had worse sides but I can't ever remember so much much apathy towards the club. We're a boring, nothing of a club with a very conservative outlook and a dull nonentity of a manager, so it should hardly come as a shock that people are being turned off. I think in the past, the apathy wasn't shared anywhere near it is these days with 24/7 online moaning. Add to that (as I've said before), anyone of a certain age who started supporting around the Keegan onwards era have had a big downward spiral for the last 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35583 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 You playing the KBJ card. :lol: Have a word, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted August 24, 2014 Author Share Posted August 24, 2014 Dull nonenity/Deplorable cunt. You say potato I say tomato. I gave my season ticket up a couple of seasons ago now CT, so if posting a lot in a match thread is as big a display of caring as arranging my life around our home games to travel 35 miles to SJP for our home games then sure CT, I still give a fuck. I give a fuck about the plight of the club's ownership and it's policies, but results/failure to score etc what's the point in caring? If we do well and I get happy, I get made unhappy again because we fail to build upon it and dismantle the winning formula. The football side of things I've got a blasé attitude towards, so if a shit result happens to give weight to an argument I might have made about the club's policies then I don't mind bringing that up. That's not because I'm happy with the shit result, it's because I'm not happy at how fickle some people were over the summer, because we signed loads of bodies. Credit where it's due etc was being trotted out. Minimal credit was due. We lost Remy, and Fulham spent more on strikers than us in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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