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Then and Now - To What Extent Has Ashley Dampened Expectations at Toontastic?


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Dr Gloom, on 03 Jul 2006 - 12:05 AM, said:

i expect another season of disappointment and underachievment

 

khay, on 03 Jul 2006 - 09:33 AM, said:

Same here, but at the moment, i would say mid table.

 

Ted Maul, on 03 Jul 2006 - 11:13 AM, said:

Inbetween 7th-12th.

 

alex, on 03 Jul 2006 - 11:37 AM, said:

I expect a season of mediocrity paving the way for the return of the prodigal son.

 

canofbeans, on 03 Jul 2006 - 12:56 PM, said:

no fucking way with the current sqaud are we getting into the champions league. 8th place at best, though of course i'd just love it if the players proved me wrong.

 

Dr Gloom, on 03 Jul 2006 - 12:59 PM, said:

talk of 5th and 6th is pie in the sky with the current squad. we need three or four quality signings before my optimism is renewed

 

Sima, on 03 Jul 2006 - 1:17 PM, said:

Top 10

 

to dumb, on 03 Jul 2006 - 1:18 PM, said:

I'm expecting to be disappointed.

 

to dumb, on 03 Jul 2006 - 1:31 PM, said:

And we won't be disappointed with disappointment, either!

 

Shearergol, on 03 Jul 2006 - 1:57 PM, said:

12th - 15th

 

David Kelly, on 03 Jul 2006 - 5:01 PM, said:

I expect to be proved right in my opion that we are a 3rd rate piss poorly ran club who are now firmly one of the also rans. I hope we manage to find some players from somewhere and that our manager far exceeds my expectations of him. I doubt this will happen though. I really do have my lowest expectations of a coming season for as long as I can remember. And considering Souness was our manager this time last year that is saying something.

 

Jusoda Kid, on 03 Jul 2006 - 7:19 PM, said:

Now that Roeder has been given the job permanently i expect the players to start acting like the cocktasters that they are and put in piss poor performances week in week out, they'll then blame roeder and we'll be lucky to avoid relegation. Thats my honest opinion about the current state of affairs at our club, 6th or 7th........keep sniffing the evo

 

 

Comparing this to the current "expectations" thread it's interesting how little difference there seems to be between then and now, despite all the talk of lowered expectations attributed to Ashley.
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Hope springs eternal. The story of football is one of projection. We see ourselves out there, our legs twitch when a shot just misses goal. That will remain unchanged, when that goes we no longer can say we have a love of the game, its mystique, its Dystopian lure. We await the arrival of a No.9 like we wait for Eastwood to come in on horseback on a rainy night with a full moon and distant splashes of thunder. Football is beyond expectations...It is etched in fantasy.

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If you'd taken predictions from before Souness was installed as manager it would have been very different mind you.

But even though the predictions above don't really show it, I don't believe there was the sense of helplesness or the feeling that we could never get back to where we were under Keegan and Robson, that there is now.

I don't think there is anyone that thinks that we will realistically compete for anything as long as Ashley's here. People didn't think FS was doing a good job, but they did expect that he would find the money to spend on players, they didn't trust he make a good managerial appointment every time but they thought we could attract a decent manager who wasn't just a puppet and they would never in a million years think we could have appointed JFK in any capacity.

The actual league position we were predicting might not be much different to now, but the short to mid term future of the club was light years away,

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Hope springs eternal. The story of football is one of projection. We see ourselves out there, our legs twitch when a shot just misses goal. That will remain unchanged, when that goes we no longer can say we have a love of the game, its mystique, its Dystopian lure. We await the arrival of a No.9 like we wait for Eastwood to come in on horseback on a rainy night with a full moon and distant splashes of thunder. Football is beyond expectations...It is etched in fantasy.

 

CT's belly twitches when he sees a tin of spaghetti hoops.

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Hope springs eternal. The story of football is one of projection. We see ourselves out there, our legs twitch when a shot just misses goal. That will remain unchanged, when that goes we no longer can say we have a love of the game, its mystique, its Dystopian lure. We await the arrival of a No.9 like we wait for Eastwood to come in on horseback on a rainy night with a full moon and distant splashes of thunder. Football is beyond expectations...It is etched in fantasy.

 

Post of the millenium :lol:

 

We got relegated within 3 years of those posts and very few if any predicted romping divi 2 in the manner in which we did. Or having a better average attendance than Chelsea the same season. Most supporters veer towards pecisissm(?) iyam.

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To be fair most of those posts called it just about right. Plenty were over-optimistic. We dropped from a 7th place finish to 13th.

 

Roede-ered? He didnt inspire much confidence like.

 

Getting twatted 5-1 in the cup at home to 2nd divisionCoventry springs to mind... <shudder>

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Roede-ered? He didnt inspire much confidence like.

 

Getting twatted 5-1 in the cup at home to 2nd divisionCoventry springs to mind... <shudder>

Was Brewcies Brum I think. On tv as well.

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Worth pointing out that he massively raised expectations when he brought Keegan in on the proviso that he would have plenty of money to spend.

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Worth pointing out that he massively raised expectations when he brought Keegan in on the proviso that he would have plenty of money to spend.

He got Keegler in as he was still on his local hero trip iirc...Standing with fans etc..

 

KK was as much undone by Wise and that Spanish bloke as MA. The bad experience and ludicrous dealings of Fat Sam muddied the KK waters and MA was starting to get wary of not keeping an eye on spend and wagers...Must have had a shock at the size of FS's backroom staff and constant demands for chest freezer to put players in or summink. The timing was very unfortunate for us and ulitmately KK.

 

In fact finishing 5th was the time to spend and have a go at CL and we didn't...Which laid the whole 5yr plan claptrap to rest forever.

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Not so much had my expectations dampened down, more my general interest pissed all over really.

 

that's it, innit.

 

pre-season expectations were up and down during fat fred's tenure but i can't remember the joy of supporting the club ever being as sucked away as much then as it has been during ashley's time in charge.

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that's it, innit.

 

pre-season expectations were up and down during fat fred's tenure but i can't remember the joy of supporting the club ever being as sucked away as much then as it has been during ashley's time in charge.

Pre Keegan was a bit grim tbf :lol:

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He got Keegler in as he was still on his local hero trip iirc...Standing with fans etc..

 

KK was as much undone by Wise and that Spanish bloke as MA. The bad experience and ludicrous dealings of Fat Sam muddied the KK waters and MA was starting to get wary of not keeping an eye on spend and wagers...Must have had a shock at the size of FS's backroom staff and constant demands for chest freezer to put players in or summink. The timing was very unfortunate for us and ulitmately KK.

 

In fact finishing 5th was the time to spend and have a go at CL and we didn't...Which laid the whole 5yr plan claptrap to rest forever.

 

Ah yes, the five year 'plan' (:lol:). Let's wind the clock back five years and see what was being said then.

 

“In five years’ time I would hope we would be challenging for everything. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mike-ashley-eyes-five-year-plan-1449440

 

Just a slight deviation from the plan then in that our current stated ambition is to challenge for absolutely nothing.

 

And another link from five years ago with bullshit about how Dennis Wise is staying and the club wants strong links with local press. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-md-answers-your-1449436

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