Ayatollah Hermione 13866 Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 Why does Keown deliver his punditry as if it was lines in a play? He's another one who has read 3 books since retiring and suddenly thinks he's a genius. In reality, he looks like the bloke who sits at the bar all night who you desperately try to avoid when getting a pint because he'll start talking complete shite about Newcastle or, if you're lucky, will just be a gigantic racist. In the way that people who say "I'm not racist but" are deeply, deeply racist. He's a right minge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Nice to see Sherwood taking no reponsibility for Villa getting their arses handed to them by Arsenal. Apparently it's the players fault for having a "losing mentality". Although he wasn't making excuses, oh dear me no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13866 Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 Yes because Pele didn't have longevity at the height of the game. [emoji38] Pele never had longevity when it mattered and that was in the bedroom. I bet Messi is a tantric sex sensei and his partners have multiple orgasms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Pele never had longevity when it mattered and that was in the bedroom. I bet Messi is a tantric sex sensei and his partners have multiple orgasms. iirc Pele used to front a campaign for impotence or something similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Nope it'll be a never settled argument anyway, my da would rate Best above both Pele and Maradona. Can argue about Pele not playing in europe, Messi getting more protection but having brilliant stats, Maradona winning trophies with lesser players/teams etc. Same with Cristiano Ronaldo, i still think he's better than Messi. For me it's Maradona.... and you can't forget Still don't know how anyone can peddle Cristiano being better than Messi like. No way he could have scored that goal last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42440 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Nope it'll be a never settled argument anyway, my da would rate Best above both Pele and Maradona. Can argue about Pele not playing in europe, Messi getting more protection but having brilliant stats, Maradona winning trophies with lesser players/teams etc. Same with Cristiano Ronaldo, i still think he's better than Messi. For me it's Maradona.... and you can't forget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 You can't have a discussion about best players without Zidane's name being mentioned. You just can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Still don't know how anyone can peddle Cristiano being better than Messi like. No way he could have scored that goal last night. Based on the last few years I'd put Cristiano alongside the likes of Muller rather than Pele or Maradona like Messi. Ridiculously good goal scorer, not really that great to watch over 90 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7027 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Yes because Pele didn't have longevity at the height of the game. [emoji38] His first ten seasons he did, his scoring rate dropped right off after that. And the World Cup argument is moot. Guivarch won a World Cup. As for single handedly winning trophies, the season Messi scored 73 goals Barcas next top scorer had 15. Take him out of that team and they win nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Guivarch winning a World Cup isn't relevant at all like. Also how the fuck is 10 years not longevity? [emoji38] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2979 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 You can't have a discussion about best players without Zidane's name being mentioned. You just can't. My favourite player. The scientist forever. There's something about Frenchies with North African descent that really Moroccans my Nubia. If you know what I mean? Yeah ya do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Hog 518 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Pele was shite, he was worse than Jason Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30610 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7027 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Guivarch winning a World Cup isn't relevant at all like [emoji38] It is when people say you can't be the worlds best player without winning a World Cup. That's a load of shit, Geroge Best was never gona have a sniff at a World Cup playing for NI, doesn't detract from his individual ability though. Haters gona hate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4384 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Surely the point is that Maradona and Pele either singlehandedly won or massively contributed to WC wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Like Ant's dad, I rate George Best above Pele and Maradona. Pele and Maradona had great attacking and goal scoring qualities and so had Best, but Best had great defensive qualities too which can't be said of the other two. I think Bobby Charlton has always been underrated in the table of best players. In the days of 5 in the forward line Bobby played in all but the outside-right position. On top of that he was real quality in a mid-field position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Well that cant be right! He hasnt won a world cup single handedly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Like Ant's dad, I rate George Best above Pele and Maradona. Pele and Maradona had great attacking and goal scoring qualities and so had Best, but Best had great defensive qualities too which can't be said of the other two. I think Bobby Charlton has always been underrated in the table of best players. In the days of 5 in the forward line Bobby played in all but the outside-right position. On top of that he was real quality in a mid-field position. What was charlton actually like as a player? Games changed a lot but are there any players about at the moment who have a similar style? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 He was a great player. 106 games and 49 goals for England. 606 games and 199 goals for Man.Utd. World Cup winner 1966. Ballon d'Or winner. Probably one of the World's best attacking mid-fielders in his day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30610 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Shit haircut though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7027 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) Maradona scored 5 goals, his partner Valdano scored 4. He didn't single handedly win the World Cup, unless you're talking about the hand he punched a goal in with. Pele was benched for half of the 1954 WC and played in one of the greatest teams of all time in 1970. Not denying that they were awesome players, just challenging some of the usual shit that gets trotted out about the pair of them. Messi was an extra time away from winning a World Cup and has won more ballon dors and cups that nearly any player in history Edited May 31, 2015 by StraightEdgeWizard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33197 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Maradona was the best I've ever saw, with due respect to Zidane who who class and Messi who could be the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat 0 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Messi hasn't quite got the flip flops on yet. https://twitter.com/barcastuff/status/604736844903927808 That reminded me of this one - Common theme - crap defending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADP 0 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 That Gemmill goal is class. Messi is the best footballer I've ever seen personally. Used to love watching Ronaldo but since he has moved more central into a goal scorer I guess I sort of admire his stats rather than enjoy watching him play. Phenomenal player though and definitely up there with the best. But Messi is the best. Pretty much every game he plays there will be a moment where I don't understand how he has manoeuvred his body and the ball in a particular way. He is a freak. If he doesn't win a world cup, it won't change anything. There is no one quite like him. Maradona is the only player you can name in the same sentence, and that's after Messi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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