Park Life 71 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 A year ago.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausman 0 Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Just like Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, nice to see that they have got their facts right again. Wankers!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoog 0 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I'd rather we did something than sit back an ignored the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bictor 0 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I'd rather we did something than sit back an ignored the problem What are we actually doing though? It seems like best case scenario our air strikes will have minimal positive impact; worst case they'll make things even worse. We're just joining to say we've joined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4679 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Oil, oil, oil and more oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15357 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Oil, oil, oil and more oil. But enough about your cooking tips... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 What are we actually doing though? It seems like best case scenario our air strikes will have minimal positive impact; worst case they'll make things even worse. We're just joining to say we've joined. Fighting an abhorrent ideology. Those who are directing this are hopng the arabs do the dirty work on the ground so long as infrastructure is dismantled from the air. A war against ideology will not be won like that though, but it gains popularity in the West because it makes it look like something is being done about it. Nuking the place will do a better job and take a lot less effort imo. Avoids all the red tape bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5164 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Alternatively, nuking the place would be a crime against humanity, destabilising for international politics throughout the world, and reasonaly likely to kick off WW3... Although I agree on the ideology bit - we're not going to win this with bombing. We're not going to win this full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4103 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Aye you can see that when you read comments like Ken's. Im grateful to him in some ways. Has helped explain a lot regarding how things have gotten this bad. And that they're only going to get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobamorisRevenge 0 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 `Nuking the place` you want to turn the desert into a sea of glass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMoog 0 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 `Nuking the place` you want to turn the desert into a sea of glass? How excellent would that look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mincepie 0 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Aye you can see that when you read comments like Ken's. Im grateful to him in some ways. Has helped explain a lot regarding how things have gotten this bad. And that they're only going to get worse. Aye things like opening the door to mass immigration, pacifying the twats and their religious fanatacism all over the world for the last 2 decades has obviously helped so lets have more of the same. Shariah Law in the west would solve this problem forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15357 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Well, it kind of would, just not necessarily in the way we'd prefer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4103 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Pacifying the twats by invading their homelands, exploiting their key resources, then leaving behind an utter mess a few years later. Oh not to forget, leaving advanced weaponry behind for them to have fun with, as a goodwill gift I suppose. Im sure they feel very pacified. Not that what the Americans have been doing in the middle east absolves ISIS of their actions. Some would say repeating the same action over and over again and expecting different results is stupidity, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3808 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Pacifying the twats by invading their homelands, exploiting their key resources, then leaving behind an utter mess a few years later. Oh not to forget, leaving advanced weaponry behind for them to have fun with, as a goodwill gift I suppose. Im sure they feel very pacified. Not that what the Americans have been doing in the middle east absolves ISIS of their actions. Some would say repeating the same action over and over again and expecting different results is stupidity, however. Definition of madness not stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4103 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Touche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5164 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Pacifying the twats by invading their homelands, exploiting their key resources, then leaving behind an utter mess a few years later. Oh not to forget, leaving advanced weaponry behind for them to have fun with, as a goodwill gift I suppose. Im sure they feel very pacified. Not that what the Americans have been doing in the middle east absolves ISIS of their actions. Some would say repeating the same action over and over again and expecting different results is stupidity, however. Perpetual war has its uses though. I don't think any of our political overlords are expecting a conventional 'win' here, just considering that there are wider strategic benefits at stake. Which is really depressing. Really don't buy into this pacifying business either... we'd be exactly the same if the US had been destabilising and periodically bombing Europe for the past 50 odd years. Perhaps religion wouldn't be the rallying cry, but knowing Europe it'd be fascism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Didn't think Isis had any bases to bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Alternatively, nuking the place would be a crime against humanity, destabilising for international politics throughout the world, and reasonaly likely to kick off WW3... Although I agree on the ideology bit - we're not going to win this with bombing. We're not going to win this full stop. Look, at least the option of nuking the caliphate is much more cost effective and requires a lot less organisation and buildup. Russia has no grounds to cry wolf about it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedfernMag 0 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) Worth a read: The War Nerd: Let’s put Islamic State’s menacing advance into perspective by… looking at a map http://pando.com/2014/09/28/the-war-nerd-lets-put-islamic-states-menacing-advance-into-perspective-by-looking-at-a-map/ Edited September 29, 2014 by RedfernMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) Worth a read: The War Nerd: Let’s put Islamic State’s menacing advance into perspective by… looking at a map http://pando.com/2014/09/28/the-war-nerd-lets-put-islamic-states-menacing-advance-into-perspective-by-looking-at-a-map/ The War Nerd is brilliant, he has a very good book out as well.... IS although brutal and clearly evil is on the face of things no real threat to any serious outfit once confronted...What they are doing is thriving on media coverage which is attracting nutters from around the globe. Edited September 29, 2014 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobamorisRevenge 0 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 `What they are doing is thriving on media coverage which is attracting nutters from around the globe.` isnt that a good thing? keep em all together in once place and then bomb them.....like nukin pegswood... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 `What they are doing is thriving on media coverage which is attracting nutters from around the globe.` isnt that a good thing? keep em all together in once place and then bomb them.....like nukin pegswood... The main reason for the bombardment will be to get the oil fields isis is running and making cash from back/inoperational. Not needing funding from their old benefactors isis are now proper rogue and hence the panic in the Ministry of Truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mincepie 0 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Pacifying the twats by invading their homelands, exploiting their key resources, then leaving behind an utter mess a few years later. Oh not to forget, leaving advanced weaponry behind for them to have fun with, as a goodwill gift I suppose. Im sure they feel very pacified. Not that what the Americans have been doing in the middle east absolves ISIS of their actions. Some would say repeating the same action over and over again and expecting different results is stupidity, however. Pacifying the twats by invading their homelands, exploiting their key resources, then leaving behind an utter mess a few years later. Oh not to forget, leaving advanced weaponry behind for them to have fun with, as a goodwill gift I suppose. Im sure they feel very pacified. Not that what the Americans have been doing in the middle east absolves ISIS of their actions. Some would say repeating the same action over and over again and expecting different results is stupidity, however. What are you calling their homelands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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