wolfy 12 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 But you said all land tips down into the sea in a bowl shape. That means the furthest pieces of land from the sea would be higher up than the mountains. No. I said water runs to the sea from land. The sea is in the bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42129 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Correct. The higher you go, the less atmospheric pressure there is. You can easily feel this just by going up or down hill in your car. Your ears feel the pressure gain or drop.Hmm, so I think we might have a problem here then. If, as you say, the force which causes water to flow downhill is atmospheric pressure, then it doesn't work, does it? The greatest atmospheric pressure will be at the bottom of the hill, the least at the top, as you say. With no other force acting upon it, water would then flow uphill, from the greatest pressure to the least. You can test this by putting a teaspoon of water in the middle of a plate and gently blowing straight down on it through a straw. The water will escape the increase in pressure by going out to the sides of the plate- uphill. In your model, it can't be atmospheric pressure making the rivers flow downhill, must be something else. My guess is lizards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3859 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 If your Earth is a rotating globe in space with gravity, then I'm not going to make any sense at all. Just use what I'm saying as a light musing for yourself and try and see if you can grasp some of it and you never know, it could get you thinking or at least questioning some of what you were told. It's not easy for anyone to go aganst what we were all taught, I understand that. What you say makes no sense to anyone regardless of previous thought. Your view lacks thought and just tries to be contrary. It lacks any physical proof which can stand up to anything above P1 questioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 ... The side that is nearest the centre of your concave disc. Fucking Hell Wolfy I was trying to keep things really simple for you. still don't know what you're trying to say. I'll be back later to explain it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42129 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 He's away blowing into a saucer. Mrs. Wolfy- " Have you been on that interweb again??" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4711 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 persian Cheers. Read this whilst on route to Durham with the Mrs. Her expression was mint, however at £400 - £500 a pop its looking like a non starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42129 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Just get a moggy and bleach the fucker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4711 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) It's the pissed off Mexican expression I like. Edited July 1, 2014 by Christmas Tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42129 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Stick some chilli flakes up it's hoop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 336 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Stick some chilli flakes up it's hoop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 Monkeys Fist, on 01 Jul 2014 - 8:45 PM, said: Hmm, so I think we might have a problem here then. If, as you say, the force which causes water to flow downhill is atmospheric pressure, then it doesn't work, does it? All things including water require energy to raise from the ground. We see that as evaporation. Everything is pushed up in to the sky by expansion of molecules. If molcules become more expanded, as in water molecules, the get pushed up by the agitation of the smaller more dense molecules due to friction or what we know as the heat of the sun. The more they are pushed up, the more they gather, as in a cloud until they condense then become heavier than the atmosphere they were pushed into. That's when they fall back to Earth, because the molecules are more dense once again than the air molecules under them, so they push through. Monkeys Fist, on 01 Jul 2014 - 8:45 PM, said: The greatest atmospheric pressure will be at the bottom of the hill, the least at the top, as you say. With no other force acting upon it, water would then flow uphill, from the greatest pressure to the least. Yes the greatest pressure will be at the bottom. It can only flow up if pressure is exerted onto that water, either by exerting more force on it which could be ships displacing the water or a pressure build up. It wouldn't make water flow up hill much, more like spread it out like putting your hand into a bowl and displacing the water to push it over the rim. Monkeys Fist, on 01 Jul 2014 - 8:45 PM, said: You can test this by putting a teaspoon of water in the middle of a plate and gently blowing straight down on it through a straw. The water will escape the increase in pressure by going out to the sides of the plate- uphill. Yes, as I said: it requires pressure above the norm. You provide that with your energy by blowing and increasing the pressure. It's how the tides work on the oceans, sort of, except not someone blowing through a straw. It's all about pressures from the centre, high v low pressure all the time. Monkeys Fist, on 01 Jul 2014 - 8:45 PM, said: In your model, it can't be atmospheric pressure making the rivers flow downhill, must be something else. Nope. It's atmospheric pressure and the Earth does not function without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADP 0 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Does anyone know what sort of cat this is. I really really want one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42129 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Monkeys Fist, on 01 Jul 2014 - 8:45 PM, said:Hmm, so I think we might have a problem here then.If, as you say, the force which causes water to flow downhill is atmospheric pressure, then it doesn't work, does it? All things including water require energy to raise from the ground. We see that as evaporation. Everything is pushed up in to the sky by expansion of molecules. If molcules become more expanded, as in water molecules, the get pushed up by the agitation of the smaller more dense molecules due to friction or what we know as the heat of the sun.The more they are pushed up, the more they gather, as in a cloud until they condense then become heavier than the atmosphere they were pushed into. That's when they fall back to Earth, because the molecules are more dense once again than the air molecules under them, so they push through. Monkeys Fist, on 01 Jul 2014 - 8:45 PM, said:The greatest atmospheric pressure will be at the bottom of the hill, the least at the top, as you say.With no other force acting upon it, water would then flow uphill, from the greatest pressure to the least. Yes the greatest pressure will be at the bottom. It can only flow up if pressure is exerted onto that water, either by exerting more force on it which could be ships displacing the water or a pressure build up. It wouldn't make water flow up hill much, more like spread it out like putting your hand into a bowl and displacing the water to push it over the rim. Monkeys Fist, on 01 Jul 2014 - 8:45 PM, said:You can test this by putting a teaspoon of water in the middle of a plate and gently blowing straight down on it through a straw.The water will escape the increase in pressure by going out to the sides of the plate- uphill. Yes, as I said: it requires pressure above the norm. You provide that with your energy by blowing and increasing the pressure. It's how the tides work on the oceans, sort of, except not someone blowing through a straw. It's all about pressures from the centre, high v low pressure all the time.Monkeys Fist, on 01 Jul 2014 - 8:45 PM, said:In your model, it can't be atmospheric pressure making the rivers flow downhill, must be something else. Nope. It's atmospheric pressure and the Earth does not function without it. You haven't explained how atmospheric pressure alone, as you claim, causes water to flow downhill on a concave disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Why don't objects float in a vacuum chamber? Wolfy, why have you reneged on our bet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42129 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 He has thought deeply about the word "renege", and realises that we all have the wrong interpretation of it. It actually means "totally ignored". Open your minds sheeple, like what I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 You haven't explained how atmospheric pressure alone, as you claim, causes water to flow downhill on a concave disc. I have. I told you it's a push on push effect. Denpressure. Basically it's pressure acting upon any dense object or body of water, etc. If you push something against the atmospheric pressure it pushes right back in equal terms . Action/reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 Why don't objects float in a vacuum chamber? Because it is still under pressure, albeit much less pressure. Remember, we cannot make a true vacuum no matter how hard we try. The true vacuum is outside the dome, which we see as blackness, devoid of matter. Anything in that true vacuum is basically in suspended animation, which is what Earth is, as a whole. No free continuous movement, just expansion and retraction of Earth's own energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3859 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Because it is still under pressure, albeit much less pressure. Remember, we cannot make a true vacuum no matter how hard we try. The true vacuum is outside the dome, which we see as blackness, devoid of matter. Anything in that true vacuum is basically in suspended animation, which is what Earth is, as a whole. No free continuous movement, just expansion and retraction of Earth's own energy. You're an idiot or a nutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 You're an idiot or a nutter. That's fair enough, you're entitled to think that. I would have probably called someone the same thing a good while back so I can hardly blame anyone for thinking I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10779 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 So arrogant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 You're an idiot or a nutter. As well as a bet reneger and therefore fundamentally dishonest. The horizon from a plane is clearly curved. The curve of the Earth over the sea can be visualised at very modest altitudes. This alone blows wolfy's inane "theories" out of the water, and shows he's either in denial, blind, a liar, or just plain thick as pigshit. The ice dome theory is also plagiarised, not sure about "denpressure" but then who cares, it's a shit idea that makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 So arrogant As well as a bet reneger and therefore fundamentally dishonest. The horizon from a plane is clearly curved. The curve of the Earth over the sea can be visualised at very modest altitudes. This alone blows wolfy's inane "theories" out of the water, and shows he's either in denial, blind, a liar, or just plain thick as pigshit. The ice dome theory is also plagiarised, not sure about "denpressure" but then who cares, it's a shit idea that makes no sense. You can believe what you want just as I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I can see the world with eyes that work you mean. Have you ever been on a plane or are they hoaxes too, you mad bastard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10779 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 You're allowed to believe what you like, you're not allowed to refute centuries of evidence based scientific realisations without similar evidence to back it up. That's the worst kind of arrogance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3859 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 As well as a bet reneger and therefore fundamentally dishonest. The horizon from a plane is clearly curved. The curve of the Earth over the sea can be visualised at very modest altitudes. This alone blows wolfy's inane "theories" out of the water, and shows he's either in denial, blind, a liar, or just plain thick as pigshit. The ice dome theory is also plagiarised, not sure about "denpressure" but then who cares, it's a shit idea that makes no sense. The land tipping the water to the sea is also blatant shite refuted by anyone with eyesite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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