Monkeys Fist 42456 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 It's thicker because there's more of it over distance. Think of it like looking through a single window pane. Easy and clear to see, right? Now add more panes to that wndow pane. It gets thicker, naturally and your vision isn't quite as clear as it was. Keep adding those panes and eventually it becomes translucent, then opaque. The atmosphere is sort of like that. But then you wouldn't see any part of the ship. According to what you're saying, it's the distance away from you that makes it impossible to see the ship, right?The mast is the same distance away, how can we see that, but not the hull? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 It does pool. it flows to the oceans which is a massive pool. It's like pouring water onto a dinner plate. It will gather in the centre until if fills up to the sides, which to you would be the beach tide. So why isn't every single lake deeper at it's rim-side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 Yeah, I get that. Â What I'm curious about is why you think the water moves downhill. Why doesn't it just stay where it is? What acts upon the water to make it flow? Atmospheric pressure. The very same thing that acts on your sink of water when you pull out the plug. It's not the water running down the plug hole. It's being pushed down the plug hole by the atmospheric pressure, just as you are pushed to the floor under it, yet we don't think about it because we are adapated to it. Â Have you ever carried a window pane with a window clamp? It's called a sucker but it's doing no sucking. It clamps to the window because you robbed the cup of the air inside it which is now pushing back onto that clamp, because the air that is left inside of the clamp, which is very little, needs to be equalised with the 15 psi of pressure outside, so the pressure clamps it by trying to equalise it but can't due to the clamp being a perfect air tight cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Also the atmosphere and glass have no similarities. I can't breathe glass or walk through it. Well I can do the last but it would fucking hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 That doesn't work if it's thick atmosphere like fog then I would see the prow of the ship first. Why is the atmosphere thicker far away? Does it change density? At sea level the atmosphere is dense. Higher up it's thinner, as you know. It's why you can see things in the sky a lot higher up than you could if you were looking from eye level horizon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 And how does your bowl shaped earth describe Britain which is surrounded by oceans? Which way do we tip? We tip all ways. We are an island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Is this cunt still at it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 We tip all ways. We are an island. You mean like the top of a ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Is there a measurable difference in air pressure between the hull and mast of a ship? Â Anyway wolfy, why have you reneged on our bet? Â "If N.A.S.A don't come up with some kind of organism or some structure or something that they tell us is intelligent life being, or, been on that planet, then I'll never question anything again and just accept everything we are told." Edited July 1, 2014 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 We tip all ways. We are an island. Do you have any sketches as to how your world view looks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 But then you wouldn't see any part of the ship. According to what you're saying, it's the distance away from you that makes it impossible to see the ship, right? The mast is the same distance away, how can we see that, but not the hull? Yes but the mast is higher, which means you are looking higher up through less dense air. It might not appear much to your thought or anyone elses but the air at your feet is a lot more dense than the air on your head. This is not noticed much at close quarters but will be very noticable over distance, which is why the light from the ships hull disappears from your view before the mast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42456 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Atmospheric pressure. The very same thing that acts on your sink of water when you pull out the plug. It's not the water running down the plug hole. It's being pushed down the plug hole by the atmospheric pressure, just as you are pushed to the floor under it, yet we don't think about it because we are adapated to it. Â Have you ever carried a window pane with a window clamp? It's called a sucker but it's doing no sucking. It clamps to the window because you robbed the cup of the air inside it which is now pushing back onto that clamp, because the air that is left inside of the clamp, which is very little, needs to be equalised with the 15 psi of pressure outside, so the pressure clamps it by trying to equalise it but can't due to the clamp being a perfect air tight cover. Atmospheric pressure you say? Interesting. Â Do you think the pressure is the same everywhere, or does it increase the more atmosphere there is pushing down on you? i.e. The higher up you go, the less the atmospheric pressure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 So why isn't every single lake deeper at it's rim-side? Why would it be deeper at it's rim side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Why would it be deeper at it's rim side?Sorry I thought you said the earth was convex? If it's concave the water would surely pool at the centre-side of all the lakes, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 You mean like the top of a ball? No. Think of it like a long mound of mud that slopes to the sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I like how none of it makes any sense yet he still keeps it going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 Do you have any sketches as to how your world view looks? I'll sketch some out in time and show you what I talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42456 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Yes but the mast is higher, which means you are looking higher up through less dense air. It might not appear much to your thought or anyone elses but the air at your feet is a lot more dense than the air on your head. This is not noticed much at close quarters but will be very noticable over distance, which is why the light from the ships hull disappears from your view before the mast.So, mice live in, and breath a much denser air? What if I took one up in a hot air balloon, would the poor little furry bastard explode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 Atmospheric pressure you say? Interesting. Â Do you think the pressure is the same everywhere, or does it increase the more atmosphere there is pushing down on you? i.e. The higher up you go, the less the atmospheric pressure? Correct. The higher you go, the less atmospheric pressure there is. You can easily feel this just by going up or down hill in your car. Your ears feel the pressure gain or drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 Sorry I thought you said the earth was convex? If it's concave the water would surely pool at the centre-side of all the lakes, right? What is centre side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 I like how none of it makes any sense yet he still keeps it going. If your Earth is a rotating globe in space with gravity, then I'm not going to make any sense at all. Just use what I'm saying as a light musing for yourself and try and see if you can grasp some of it and you never know, it could get you thinking or at least questioning some of what you were told. It's not easy for anyone to go aganst what we were all taught, I understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Correct. The higher you go, the less atmospheric pressure there is. You can easily feel this just by going up or down hill in your car. Your ears feel the pressure gain or drop. Â But you said all land tips down into the sea in a bowl shape. That means the furthest pieces of land from the sea would be higher up than the mountains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21627 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Anyway wolfy, why have you reneged on our bet? Â "If N.A.S.A don't come up with some kind of organism or some structure or something that they tell us is intelligent life being, or, been on that planet, then I'll never question anything again and just accept everything we are told." FAO wolfy. I think you should have the courtesy to offer some explanation, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 So, mice live in, and breath a much denser air? Â What if I took one up in a hot air balloon, would the poor little furry bastard explode? It wouldn't explode but it wouldn't be very happy with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 What is centre side? ... The side that is nearest the centre of your concave disc. Fucking Hell Wolfy I was trying to keep things really simple for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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