Howay 12496 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) I'm thinking the sort of video where it zooms in and out dead quick and he points at The Fish's posts and wags his big fat index finger and does Ohhhhh SNAP! type movements when a post insults him. Probably more Boldon RuPaul than True Geordie. :lol: Bit harsh Fish attacking Andrew out the blue, but he's right. Gpirlo is right in all, it's fair enough saying Rafa sorted the defence out but he had to play people out of position and hope they did a job, we also had to suffer abou 10 games with a make shift defence AND McClaren organizing it which is really what cost us, the fact Rafa some how had us still fighting so late on was astounding. Edited May 25, 2016 by Howay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Look at Norwich away. Conceding 3 in that game arguably sent us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Look at Norwich away. Conceding 3 in that game arguably sent us down. Aye that was a disaster tbh, 3 conceded against that fucking shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 They lost 3-0 at home to the mackems a fortnight later as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Aye the Mackems bought a few defenders in January which definitely helped them retain the ball and be stronger at the back. While CT is being all selective about how Rafa sorted the defence which 'proves' we didn't need to focus on it, we also scored in all except 2 games under Rafa including putting 5 past the joint best defence in the league (comfortably the best until we put 5 past them). I'm not saying we didn't need forwards but we also needed midfielders as well, just the defence was a massive priority in January and one that went ignored, even after being one of the worst in the league last season we bought 1 defender, we were again among the worst this year and we didn't buy any in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 The same bloke argued we'd end comfortably mid-table last season just by bringing in McClaren and Cathro iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15530 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Look at Norwich away. Conceding 3 in that game arguably sent us down. We'd have pissed it if Mitrovic had pulled his weight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44882 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 The same bloke argued we'd end comfortably mid-table last season just by bringing in McClaren and Cathro iirc."The final piece of the jigsaw." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Howmanheyman 33222 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 To be fair to CT, err, nah, there's no excuse, should stick to corner group settee threads. Nee offence, like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I think the vast majority had Newcastle to finish mid table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 You should ease off the 'thinking' for a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Benitez basically got the defence playing well using the players we already had. That indicates a coaching solution. He couldn't get the strikers playing well cos they're shit. That's a personnel problem. Goals scored went from 1 per game to 1.6 (+0.6) Goals conceded went from 1.9 to 1.2 (-0.7) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpirlo68 0 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 The minuite McClaren was appointed my aim was 17th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 The minuite McClaren was appointed my aim was 17th Think it was his aim as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I thought McClaren would do better than he did tbh. Wasn't expecting anything majorly impressive but certainly didn't think we'd be battling relegation. After John Carver, I think hiring literally anyone vaguely competent was enough for me to be optimistic. Sadly, McClaren wasn't vaguely competent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Goals scored went from 1 per game to 1.6 (+0.6) Goals conceded went from 1.9 to 1.2 (-0.7) Is that including the freaky pressures off we're relegated spurs game. As I've said to Fish, the use of stats is pretty meaningless in this scenario. I'm pretty sure a decent striker in January would have made more of a difference to results than a decent left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Stats that disagree with CT's assertions are meaningless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44882 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 When you're pretty sure, you're pretty sure. No stat can fuck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Howay 12496 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Is that including the freaky pressures off we're relegated spurs game. They still had pressure on them, they wanted to finish 2nd but losing to us meant they came 3rd behind Arsenal. It was an impressive result scoring 5 past the best defence in the league, I know it runs against your argument but you can't dismiss it especially as like I say the game still held meaning for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33222 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 They still had pressure on them, they wanted to finish 2nd but losing to us meant they came 3rd behind Arsenal. It was an impressive result scoring 5 past the best defence in the league, I know it runs against your argument but you can't dismiss it especially as like I say the game still held meaning for them.Went on one of the spurs match day threads. The meltdown was almost rtg level. They absolutely wanted to finish over arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpirlo68 0 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Went on one of the spurs match day threads. The meltdown was almost rtg level. They absolutely wanted to finish over arsenal. Well that's cheered me up, karma for that spurs twat on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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