ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Carroll's replacement turned out to be a free transfer in the end too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 That we cashed in on, and didn't replace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inochi 0 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Yes, wouldn't surprise me at all. Fair enough, like. I can understand a lot of the negativity around at the moment, but I can't understand anyone genuinely believing that Ashley would have us start the season with very little chance of maintaining our PL status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 You mean like when we got promoted and were instantly hit with "there'll be no major outlay on transfers" statement? We weren't really expected to stay up then, that we did was because of the character of the squad and not because Mike spent enough to keep us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33180 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Fair enough, like. I can understand a lot of the negativity around at the moment, but I can't understand anyone genuinely believing that Ashley would have us start the season with very little chance of maintaining our PL status. There's always the January window if he thinks we need substantial player 'trading' to keep us in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inochi 0 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I'm not trying to say we'll make a substantial outlay on players, or even that the players we bring in will be of a high enough quality. However, if we don't bring bodies in, and the expected players leave, we'll barely have enough senior pros to field a first eleven. For me, he won't let that happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33180 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 How much to bring in a load of Amalfitano's or Goslings? Is this Spanish kid earmarked for the reserves? We might end up with a lot of signings, my guess is at least half will be bought not on ability but on affordability or transfer clauses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33180 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 He can always mutter loudly to himself whilst spending some of the previously saved cash in the event of an imminent relegation battle later on this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I would imagine the clubs blatant disregard for the FA and League cups and European football will limit the calibre of player we can attract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 How much to bring in a load of Amalfitano's or Goslings? Is this Spanish kid earmarked for the reserves? We might end up with a lot of signings, my guess is at least half will be bought not on ability but on affordability or transfer clauses. My guess is ALL will be. Almost certain anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Last week there was an article saying Pardew was to be given £35 million (that magic figure again) to buy 3 new strikers. Now you'd be forgiven for thinking 3 £12 million strikers sounds canny. But then we remember that that £12 million will have to include the transfer fee, agents fees, & players wages. On that basis we are now probably looking for 3 £6/7 million strikers it certainly narrows our chances of buying quality players down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 How much to bring in a load of Amalfitano's or Goslings? Is this Spanish kid earmarked for the reserves? We might end up with a lot of signings, my guess is at least half will be bought not on ability but on affordability or transfer clauses.This is our transfer policy now is it not? I would suspect Mbwia's (and Cisse latterly) lack of success will reinforce it even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33180 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 (edited) Fair enough, like. I can understand a lot of the negativity around at the moment, but I can't understand anyone genuinely believing that Ashley would have us start the season with very little chance of maintaining our PL status. And I can't understand anyone who would second-guess the man, given his record. Edited June 11, 2014 by trophyshy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Ashley learns from mistakes. He might not learn what we want him to, but he applies lessons learned. He sold Given, Milner and Nzogbia as our season spiralled out of control in 08/09 without replacing them and we got relegated. In 12/13 we were facing relegation again and we brought in half a dozen players to ensure survival. That's the plus side of him gaining some experience. Unfortunately he's learned that the Europa league is a ball and chain of a competition and he wants nothing to do with it, that an ambitious manager with an ounce of pride will cause him grief and that the club can lose a great deal of money on 8 figure signings too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Ashley learns from mistakes. He might not learn what we want him to, but he applies lessons learned. He sold Given, Milner and Nzogbia as our season spiralled out of control in 08/09 without replacing them and we got relegated. In 12/13 we were facing relegation again and we brought in half a dozen players to ensure survival. That's the plus side of him gaining some experience. Unfortunately he's learned that the Europa league is a ball and chain of a competition and he wants nothing to do with it, that an ambitious manager with an ounce of pride will cause him grief and that the club can lose a great deal of money on 8 figure signings too. Totally agree. However he cant sell the likes of Cabaye, Carroll etc... if he doesn't buy players of the calibre of Cabella and Grenier. I wonder how he views not signing Remy twice! On the one hand we've had him cheap and risk free, however i get the feeling he bitter we didnt get to cash in on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I think we probably are in for the likes of Cabella but only if we can get them for a bargain price. That approach paid off with Cabaye but French clubs seems to be wise to us now....as we're seeing with montpelliers refusal to do a quick deal before the WC. I do think we risk losing out on our top targets if thats what we're doing because other clubs will make more credible bids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essembeeofsunderland 811 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 No relegation and no europa league is fine with Ashley.Why invest if the investment is more than what you can gain from the SKY money by finishing a couple of places higher next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Fabregas to Chelsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Fabregas to Chelsea Oof, right in the Wengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Pretty damning that. I'm not sure he's enough to change either of their fortunes by himself, but he's closer tothe final piece for Arsenal than he is for Chelsea imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2964 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Fabregas: “I firmly believe that Chelsea is the best choice. They match my footballing ambitions with their hunger and desire to win trophies.” “I would like to thank everyone at FC Barcelona where I enjoyed 3 wonderful years. It was my childhood club and I will always be proud and honoured that I had a chance to play for such a great team. "I do feel that I have unfinished business in the Premier League and now is the right time for me to return. Yes, everyone knows that Arsenal had the first option to sign me. They decided not to take this option and therefore it wasn’t meant to be. I wish them well in the future.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 €15m = about £13m Sounds like Ashley's market trader shtick isn't going down too well in France. Saying that, Nicollin is a fucking buffoon, so it could all be bluster to drive the price further now that Cabella's in the World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share Posted June 12, 2014 Some boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 I'd love to see a fight between him and Ashley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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