Rayvin 5220 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Rumours on Twitter we are close to an agreement for Abdennour. Can't see it myself, £20mil+ for one of Europes best centre halves when we already have 5 in his position?  If that turns out to be true, I'll genuinely believe that Ashley meant what he said at the end of last year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Making a point of giving the captaincy to Colo and then making him third choice would be odd. Yes, I think that highly of Mbemba already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I can see Williamson being shipped out and some prospect getting signed, but that's about it for defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Making a point of giving the captaincy to Colo and then making him third choice would be odd. Yes, I think that highly of Mbemba already.Their eggs are in the Colo will come good again basket. He should improve as his match fitness increases but it seems it's his attitude that has been... Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADMAN 0 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 are we linked with anyone else seen as we have thauvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33180 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 So we've spent £50mil on a midfielder, winger, centre half and striker. Can't say I saw that coming. Whilst we still look a little light on quality at CB and LB I think we've got to admit it's been a pretty successful transfer window. Credit where it's due. No 'stars' sold yet either We've not won in two games out of two. That'll probably stretch to four. No credit due, credit owed in spades to the support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 I said to me father after the Mitrovic signing that they'd spend 50m but recoup half of that selling Cissé and Sissoko. I'll be fucking ecstatic if I'm wrong about anyone good leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 We've not won in two games out of two. That'll probably stretch to four. No credit due, credit owed in spades to the support. We are in the top 4 for money spent this window. We could have been in the bottom 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 It's pleasing that the penny might have dropped. Shame it's happened about 7 years too late. Even a £50m splurge will do little to address the deficiencies in the squad. We are largely relying on mclaren's abilities as a coach, particularly when it comes to the defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Don't think the penny's dropped beyond Ashley shitting himself at the end of last season. Priorities haven't changed, just the approach and probably then just in the short terms. Even that's against a backdrop of an improved TV deal. I doubt we'll be amongst the top spenders every summer / transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKANDWHITEGEORDIE 0 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Give me one good reason why you believe we should be outbidding Arsenal, Chelsea, Man. Utd, Man. City, Liverpool or Spurs for players. In football it's not what you know but who you know. Example - Man. Utd have been after Pedro for months. Along come Chelsea and get Fabregas to convince Pedro and Fabregas's girl friend to convince his wife to join Chelsea. Plus Pedro had been told of the brutal LVG regime by di Maria. Why do top players not sign for us? Because they believe Newcastle is in the wilderness and you don't only have to convince the player but his wife/girl friend. Why do a number of French/Dutch players sign for us - because Ashley pays significantly more and gives 5 year contracts which their own clubs would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Mike is no fool, he's protecting his investment. The new TV rights deal comes into effect in the 2016/17 season and that will further inflate the price of players. Spend less down on longer deals to save some money if you can keep an efficient squad. There's surplus money to spend from seasons passed as well so even though there's a high spend now balanced across a longer period since 2010 it's much more aligned to the aspirations Mike Ashley has for the club. Whatever the case whilst we're buying players we might as well enjoy it because there's absolutely no guarantee that it will be sustained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Oh there's no chance. The next few windows will be the best of this latest influx getting cashed in on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Give me one good reason why you believe we should be outbidding Arsenal, Chelsea, Man. Utd, Man. City, Liverpool or Spurs for players. I didn't say we should be so it's moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santiagomn8 0 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 If we don't get any players in the summer "we didn't buy how can they possibly think we can compete"  We buy 5 good players "it's not enough the defense needs work  We buy foreign players "they don't have the passion for the country and the epl"  We buy domestic players "not good enough why aren't we going out and getting Spanish German ect. talent"  We sell players "we ruined our season"  We don't sell players "why are we still paying these players"  the life of a Newcastle United fan lol  On a more serious note we have made good signings we do lack defensively but we can't repair the whole team in one summer it's going to take time lets just hope we continue in the right path even if it's a slow process as long as we get there (Europa and hopefully champions league) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Kind of agree. We've never had the complete team really have we? Even under SBR we had Carr and Bramble at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5220 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 It's all relative though, isn't it? Â If we don't get any players in the summer "we didn't buy how can they possibly think we can compete"We buy 5 good players "it's not enough the defense needs workWe buy foreign players "they don't have the passion for the country and the epl"We buy domestic players "not good enough why aren't we going out and getting Spanish German ect. talent"We sell players "we ruined our season"We don't sell players "why are we still paying these players"the life of a Newcastle United fan lolOn a more serious note we have made good signings we do lack defensively but we can't repair the whole team in one summer it's going to take time lets just hope we continue in the right path even if it's a slow process as long as we get there (Europa and hopefully champions league) Â We're not that bad, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I'm happy with the spending we have done this summer but I'm not sure we have had our priorities right. Surely the first thing we should have done was to address the defence. And if we think we've done enough on that score now we're clearly deluded. I also agree with Alex in that this should be viewed as nothing more than the first step to try and redress the balance and I have very little expectation of it continuing in the future. More likely we will go back to (or rather continue with) the same only invest if we are right in the shit policy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Abeid's gone to Panathanaikos permanently. Good news, he's not good enough imo and certainly didn't look like McClaren fancied him so it free's up a squad space. Gouffran and Williamson next please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 so it free's up a squad space. Â Oh good, we need more of those for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Oh good, we need more of those for sure!We do if we want to sign anyone else. There's no point in having a massive squad that is full of shit. Which is what he have currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I'd be happy enough with him going if we were to bring someone else in to take his place (or use that squad space on a LB/CB). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 We've already got too many midfielders. Gini is an upgrade on Sissoko, don't see any sense in buying someone else who isn't going to get into the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santiagomn8 0 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 We have to sell players hate to see abied go but understand the move we have to get rid of some wages players like Williamson goufrann ect. I completely agree that we need more defensive work but if this is all we buy I will say we did a great job and in January or possibly next summer there won't be a need for buying so many players all we would need is a quality cb lb if haidara doesn't prove himself this season which some think he can (I don't but I'm ok giving him a shot) and possibly 1 other position depending how everything else goes that I can see being possible doesn't strike me as impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 We have Colback, Anita, Tiote, Gini, Sissoko all ahead of Abeid for a central position so for me it's no loss to the squad at all. We had a full squad before his departure so it would be very unlikely that we would sign anyone else without him leaving so it's a no brainer really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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