ewerk 31221 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I wouldn't be so sure. I'm not yet convinced that he has the ability to become a top defender but he is a real leader and that's something we've lacked in the dressing room for a long, long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20768 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 He's got a good head on his shoulders. When he had a mare start he sorted himself out and has come back very strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35601 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I'd take £18m for him. No probs. Mbemba-Clark-Hanley are just as able. Ironic that you've written him off so early given how much time you had for the Whitley Bay Beckenbauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5304 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I wouldn't be so sure. I'm not yet convinced that he has the ability to become a top defender but he is a real leader and that's something we've lacked in the dressing room for a long, long time. I'd agree with this, I find the idea of losing him a bit concerning to be honest, even if £18m is good money. We could definitely replace him for that kind of spend of course, but we'd not be guaranteed to get the same level of leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3982 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Sell him for £18million on condition we're the ones they loan him to. Tbh I think any young player going to Chelsea is committing career suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerbarton 24 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 There's no way he's worth £18m or good enough for a PL title challenger. That said, as others have mentioned, he's been a really good influence since Rafa came in. I'd be pretty concerned if we let a leader like him leave, especially given he seems to 'get' what playing for us is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie 0 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I wouldn't want to Lascelles to leave. He's a promising young player and seems to be a good leader and good influence on the rest of the squad. I've no problem binning off players if Rafa deems them not good enough to make the step up next season, but that is a totally different kettle of fish to losing our more influential players to better clubs. If we start existing to selling players at a profit again I can't see Rafa sticking around and the last 6 months or so might as well not have happened. That said I don't doubt this story is just standard newspaper guff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) Agree with Dickie, he's a promising player and a leader in the side it would just be needless upheaval and we don't need the money. I really don't see why Chelsea would want him either btw, he's a promising enough player but I don't see him pushing CL football level anytime soon, if ever. He'll probably end up being a decent PL centre half which will be good for us. Edited November 21, 2016 by Howay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22182 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 if a bid has come in, and he fancies it, there won't be much we can do to stop him. i'd like to thin he's enjoying the role as club captain and automatic starter though - and that he sees what rafa is doing here, and our potential next season if/when we're promoted. he could end up going to chelsea and never getting a sniff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 If he's not going to ever be a CL defender then we should sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 He's not get close to the Chelsea line up, he'd be a sub/reserve player for 6 month then join their legion of players out on loan. From a football standpoint staying is a total no brainer, the thing is does he want to improve and be the best he can be in his career or does he fancy being a multi millionaire 23 year old living in London, I'm sure the wages with an £18m transfer would be very high. I wouldn't blame him really as it's hard to say what you'd do in that position as you're not exactly objective, most players would have the self belief that they would go and win a starting spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6785 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Ironic that you've written him off so early given how much time you had for the Whitley Bay Beckenbauer No-one ever put in an £18m for Taylor..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35601 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 No-one ever put in an £18m for Taylor..... Unsurprisingly. You've claimed Lascelles would never be any good though, which was what I was getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6785 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) I know. I was just suggesting we have enough quality at the back that I doubt we'd miss him. I doubt its true anyway. He is nowhere near an £18m player, even in this current crazy market. Edited November 21, 2016 by Holden McGroin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I know. I was just suggesting we have enough quality at the back that I doubt we'd miss him. I doubt its true anyway. He is nowhere near an £18m player, even in this current crazy market. Moussa Sissoko is the Mornington Crescent of all "He's not worth that, even in this market" conversations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7181 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 It's pointless selling Lascelles for £18mil if we can't replace him for the same money. The last decent young English defender sold for £50mil and he's dropped more changers than Lascelles has this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7181 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I know. I was just suggesting we have enough quality at the back that I doubt we'd miss him. I doubt its true anyway. He is nowhere near an £18m player, even in this current crazy market. Did you see Hanley against England? There's a reason he's out 4th choice CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 He's one of the players I'd expect us to unload before the Premier League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7181 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 There's a few in the squad that we should be moving on if we get promoted Hanley Tiote (contracts up anyway) Murphy Colback I think Clarke and Dummett will be found out too but Rafa will probably keep them as utility players. One of Sels, Darlow and Elliot isn't going to be happy playing in the reserves either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5304 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Is Tiote in the squad? Is he still alive, even? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 There's a few in the squad that we should be moving on if we get promoted Hanley Tiote (contracts up anyway) Murphy Colback I think Clarke and Dummett will be found out too but Rafa will probably keep them as utility players. One of Sels, Darlow and Elliot isn't going to be happy playing in the reserves either I'd agree with that, maybe add Anita and Gouffran too. Though both of them have been reborn under Rafa and he might want to keep them as players he trusts to go out there and do the job he's asked? Is there a clause for Ajax to buy Krul, if not we'll be very heavy in the least rotated position on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) There's about half a dozen players I'd want to shift ahead of big Vurn like, very solid performer Edited November 22, 2016 by TheGingerQuiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7181 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 My worry is it forces Woodman out and we end up losing another Fraser Forster. Sels seemed a bit of overkill in the GK department, although Darlow has probably performed better than the club expected this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 The problem with buying Sels is that he's shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10972 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 He certainly hasn't impressed, but then neither has Gamez, Lazaar, Murphy, Hanley, or Diame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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