TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Not necessarily, if you look at some of the promoted clubs, the model they seem to follow is building a solid team and then adding quality where it's needed rather than overhauling their sides with loads of new players. The priority is to get promoted and if we do that, a strong team spirit should emerge like last time we got promoted. Some of the players we have should also develop into better players and buying a lot now gives the manager more chances to develop the sort of player we would need. I get that that's what some promoted clubs do (out of necessity) but I don't think Rafa would be prepared to gamble with some of this dross and pin hopes on team spirit. He'll be looking to kick on quickly if we go up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 I get that that's what some promoted clubs do (out of necessity) but I don't think Rafa would be prepared to gamble with some of this dross and pin hopes on team spirit. He'll be looking to kick on quickly if we go up I assume he is also banking on the fact that some of the players won't be good enough. I think he sees the players brought in as all having potential to play at this level and the next but that not all of them will show that. The two central defenders are probably a good example where if we do go up, the better one will be kept and the other one let go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7031 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 £5mil for a 33 year old championship striker who can't get in the starting XI is ridiculous, bordering on the money wasted on Riviere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Hopefully it's a short term deal and a short term fix, it must be hard to bring in someone willing to be a back up for a Championship side to be fair. I've got a feeling that if Murphy comes in he'll be our lot for up top, until January anyway. Hopefully we get the deal for this left back wrapped up as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Bit of a head scratcher this one. Agree about the need for a striker with a physical presence but can we genuinely not attract better than an Ipswich reserve? Feels like a panic buy, hard to imagine he's a player Rafa was demanding we buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Way I see it is that the alternative is completely changing system everytime Mitro gets a ban or a knock. That could potentially disrupt our momentum throughout the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Bit of a head scratcher this one. Agree about the need for a striker with a physical presence but can we genuinely not attract better than an Ipswich reserve? Feels like a panic buy, hard to imagine he's a player Rafa was demanding we buy I agree with Quiff saying it's to ensure continuity in the system Rafa wants to play, he's not a reserve at Ipswich is he? he's their number 9 iirc. The worry is the bloke is a complete Championship striker and doesn't do well in the PL (and he's 33), I suppose if he does fire in a bunch of goals for us and we get promoted he's worth the money. As I said just before I don't imagine it's the easiest sell to try and bring someone in as back up striker for a Championship side so I suppose this is a half decent one to bring in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Achraf Lazaar (however you spell it) has signed and is at the match apparently. Murphy is having a medical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Murphy failed the medical, they found a big lump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30620 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Murphy failed the medical, they found a big lump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToony 41 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 jesus we're not actually paying £5m for Murphy... fucking hell  He's no Peter Lovenkrands that's for damn sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Would rather Anichebe for nowt or Odemwingie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 Would rather  Odemwingie.   Apparently he's been outside of the training ground for a fortnight, sleeping in his car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 jesus we're not actually paying £5m for Murphy... fucking hell   We're not, don't worry.         We're paying about £3.5m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Absolute shite at international level. We really seem to be building a side for the Championship rather than one to compete in the PL.  Just what I was thinking. Can see Chez's point to an extent but Daryl Murphy ffs  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I wasn't referring to Murphy earlier, more the overall approach of who to buy to get you up. The strategy can't be to buy players that are top premiership players as that obviously makes no sense whatsoever on any level. So what do you do? Only buy players that want to drop down a level for money? Buy players that are clearly going to be top players but aren't there yet? Â You need a mix of players in the recruitment mix. I would have thought the thinking would be somewhere along these lines. Firstly you need players who are good enough for the Orem, like Ritchie, Gayle, Mbemba, Elliot, Perez (you can argue who goes in which category). Then you need a whole plethora of players who are young and in development who look like they can develop into better players and move up a level. Those players are the hardest to identify so you need to have a few shots on target and fill the squad. You plan to keep only the ones that do well and buy up if you go up (Hayden etc). Then you need players who can do a job for you in the championship (we had plenty the last time). This third type of player you definitely don't plan to keep. The difference being this time we don't have players like Ranger, Lovenkrands etc to do a striking job already on the books and getting a Harewood type of player costs a bit more nowadays. Â So 'wtf' in general to Murphy but don't think it makes sense to view each transfer with the same perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7031 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Most of our players seem like sensible buys but the likes of Murphy, Hanley, ?Atsu will never get a kick if we get promoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7031 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Add Tiote (Galatasaray) and Sissoko to the list and we've lost 17 players from the squad! Atsu and Lazaar in would make 12 back in  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I read Tiote was talking to clubs in Greece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7031 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 The good thing is Townsend was the only one of that lot I wanted to keep and I think Richie is as good if not better. People argued the toss a couple of weeks ago but Townsends done fuck all since he left and Richie has been easily our best player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20165 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Ritchie has been mint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico martin 89 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 (edited) how much would Jordan Rhodes cost now that he's been frozen out at the free scoring boro? Edited August 28, 2016 by zico martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7031 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Wouldn't want him, did nowt for 6months at Boro. We've been linked with Adomah, Mcmanaman and Atsu for the LW. I would have Adomah over the rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Townsend and Richie in the same side would have been good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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