The Fish 10430 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) Who are they? Tried to do a funny using Derek "Fazackerley" and Nabokov ("exactly" and "Nah gerrof")... but it was becoming massively convoluted and definitely shit, so here's a picture of peak football hipstering instead. Edited June 18, 2015 by The Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2836 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 One thing I will say is that the brouhaha about the transfer kitty is a little daft. £25m could be about enough to buy this years versions of Abeid (£0m), Ba (£0m), Cabaye (£5m), Cisse (£9m), Colback (£0m), Marveaux (£0m), Mbiwa (£8m), Remy (£2m) and Sissoko (£2.5m). My point being, money isn't the worry for me, it's the lack of action. Sign Dost for £7m or Austin for £15m, or some free transfer, I don't care, just fucking sign someone. I don't think it's daft. We can't rely on getting bargain basement prices on good players every time we need them. That approach is not going to work long term. We are proof that it doesn't work. To me, to think the club is capable of consistently getting good players dirt cheap is daft. If we were operating with a reasonable transfer kitty things would go a lot smoother. Assuming of course we didn't have a moron at the controls. More money means more room to manoeuvre. More money means, on average, we can buy better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13608 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Also, in three short years, the market for transfers has changed to the point where there's way more money kicking about. You've just got to look at the increase in TV money in that span to see that. I bet a 12th place finish now would eclipse what we got for finishing 5th (I'm not going to check that) and clubs like Stoke, who only just finished with their highest position ever last year, are spending a load of money to secure a squad capable of taking small steps forward. Our lot think that they can leap 10 places up the table by spending less than everyone else and it's ridiculous to expect that to happen and ridiculous to expect one cheap signing (your Remy's, Ba's etc) to be relied on to do so. You need a squad and this lot aren't capable of building it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10430 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I don't think it's daft. We can't rely on getting bargain basement prices on good players every time we need them. That approach is not going to work long term. We are proof that it doesn't work. To me, to think the club is capable of consistently getting good players dirt cheap is daft. If we were operating with a reasonable transfer kitty things would go a lot smoother. Assuming of course we didn't have a moron at the controls. More money means more room to manoeuvre. More money means, on average, we can buy better players. My point is worry less about the cash and more about the inactivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2836 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 My point is worry less about the cash and more about the inactivity. I appreciate that. But I think the inactivity is a result of the lack of money. Austin would have signed if we'd just pay what he's worth. But we can't because that would be 3/5 of our transfer budget on one player. Dost is probably not a done deal because we're haggling over price like a bunch of pricks. I think one causes the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10430 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I appreciate that. But I think the inactivity is a result of the lack of money. Austin would have signed if we'd just pay what he's worth. But we can't because that would be 3/5 of our transfer budget on one player. Dost is probably not a done deal because we're haggling over price like a bunch of pricks. I think one causes the other. I don't think there's a lack of money, I think we could have a kitty of £1b and we'd still be haggling. We're not short of money and as has been said before there isn't a separate bank account for transfers, put simply we shop only for players with yellow stickers or knackered tins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2836 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I don't think there's a lack of money, I think we could have a kitty of £1b and we'd still be haggling. We're not short of money and as has been said before there isn't a separate bank account for transfers, put simply we shop only for players with yellow stickers or knackered tins. I agree. There isn't a lack of money. I agree that we could be buying lawn seed and we'd still haggle. That's why I included the caveat that I'd like to not have a bunch of morons at the controls. I'm not saying we have a separate player transfers bank account. So let's not start moving goalposts. I'm saying the idiots in control need to adjust their sights on what constitutes value for money. They are out of touch. Take Austin. They are not haggling over Austin's price for a few million. They are practically offering half of what he's worth. They are out of touch with the reality of the transfer market. Like I mentioned a few days ago. The club needs to double the money they are willing to spend on transfers otherwise we are going to be relegation fodder again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10430 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 I agree. There isn't a lack of money. I agree that we could be buying lawn seed and we'd still haggle. That's why I included the caveat that I'd like to not have a bunch of morons at the controls. I'm not saying we have a separate player transfers bank account. So let's not start moving goalposts. I'm saying the idiots in control need to adjust their sights on what constitutes value for money. They are out of touch. Take Austin. They are not haggling over Austin's price for a few million. They are practically offering half of what he's worth. They are out of touch with the reality of the transfer market. Like I mentioned a few days ago. The club needs to double the money they are willing to spend on transfers otherwise we are going to be relegation fodder again. Mind you, we've no idea what's going on behind those doors. For all we know we've already all but secured Austin, Dost & Whomever. Just waiting for them to get back from weddings/holidays/military reenactments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2836 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34100 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10430 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Links, rumours, targets, aims, working hard behind the scenes and all that old bollocks can kiss my rusty hole. I'll decide if i'm buying a Southampton ticket depending who we've signed when they go on sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3710 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 What's the odds on McLaren resigning before xmas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29492 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Probably more likely than you ever learning how to spell his fucking name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34100 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Given he'd forfeit the majority of the money owed to him over the course of his contract, I'd say they were pretty slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34100 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Probably more likely than you ever learning how to spell his fucking name. He'll be dancing in the streets of Galashiels tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Probably more likely than you ever learning how to spell his fucking name. Tbh it wouldn't totally shock me if McClaren had said he could have the current crop (with maybe one or two or their regular cheap punt singings) back to mid table mediocrity which is similar to telling a normal club you'd have them in the CL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42667 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 He's a Mc as well. The placca jock should be all over that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ayatollah Hermione 13608 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 He's a Mc as well. The placca jock should be all over that. MC CLAREN IN THE HOUSE. REEEEEEMIIIIIIIXXXXXXXXXXXXX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14001 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42667 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 you bell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3710 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 He's a Mc as well. The placca jock should be all over that. What's wrong with bein a Mc like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42667 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Nothing, McBitchtits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3710 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 Nothing, McBitchtits. My tits are half the size of yours Jordan boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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