ewerk 30543 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 good signing. the sort that would give this place a lift but i doubt we'd pay those wages I'm not sure we'd balk at it for a player of his calibre, he's only 21 and averaged 1 in 2 everywhere he's been (apart from his few games at Chelsea). I can only see his value increasing as he comes into his prime. It's exactly the sort of investment Ashley should be making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10843 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Man City & Spurs from that list - oh and la Liga champions Atlético Madrid... Man City played Negredo or Dzeko up front, but Aguero was always dropping deep I'd say it was a 4-4-1 and I certainly wouldn't say they played a classic 4-4-2 with out and out wingers? Spurs didn't play 442 did they? I thought it was always a 4-5-1/4-3-3 with Adebayor leading the line and their midfield supporting him. I can't think of any games where Soldado and Adebayor played alongside each other? You're right with Atletico, but I think that kind of supports my point; most top clubs do not use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I'm not sure we'd balk at it for a player of his calibre, he's only 21 and averaged 1 in 2 everywhere he's been (apart from his few games at Chelsea). I can only see his value increasing as he comes into his prime. It's exactly the sort of investment Ashley should be making. Too high risk for ashley at 24million. But paupers like Everton spending that on a player should put our purchases into perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatty 24 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Lukaku fee is £28m. Crazy bastards think they're Portsmouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Good player but that's serious money! Id rather have Remy at half the price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10843 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Good player but that's serious money! Id rather have Remy at half the priceI dunno Lukaku is a huge talent and much younger (in football career terms). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Thought the Guardian Fiver summed it up well: "The man Chelsea signed to replace Didier Drogba, Romelu Lukaku, is coughing for the Everton doctor now that Chelsea have signed Didier Drogba to replace him." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 He's 'unplayable' on his day, he has plenty of time to get better too. Think it signals they will sell one or two players later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Where in hell did Everton get £28m from...is that the Fellaini cash? Looking at it that way, they've swapped Fellaini for Lukaku. Good business, IMO. I do rather feel that this is probably their entire summer budget mind, but at least it shows they're prepared to push on from last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 6 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Southampton have signed Ryan Bertrand on a season long loan. Not a bad replacement for Shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Where in hell did Everton get £28m from...is that the Fellaini cash? Looking at it that way, they've swapped Fellaini for Lukaku. Good business, IMO. I do rather feel that this is probably their entire summer budget mind, but at least it shows they're prepared to push on from last year. They had him last year though It is a massive sign of ambition though, spending that sort of cash on a player. They had a striker who did well for them on loan and they've paid accordingly. Whereas the rumours of Remy potentially costing us £15m has people saying "no way". Sad really. Edited July 30, 2014 by ClubSpinDoctor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bictor 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 They had him last year though It is a massive sign of ambition though, spending that sort of cash on a player. They had a striker who did well for them on loan and they've paid accordingly. Whereas the rumours of Remy potentially costing us £15m has people saying "no way". Sad really. So if we signed Lukaku for 28 million instead of buying Janmaat/de Jong/Riviere/Cabella/Ayoze, you'd be happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 So if we signed Lukaku for 28 million instead of buying Janmaat/de Jong/Riviere/Cabella/Ayoze, you'd be happy? We only needed to sign all of them because of who we've sold this year If we'd kept Cabaye and Debuchy, then yes I'd rather have bought Lukaku than signed those players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Oh and their net spend in the period that Ashley has owned us is positive, not negative like ours. Less turnover too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 The difference being that Kenwright is an Everton fan and has been all his life and Mike Ashley fucking hates us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 The difference being that Kenwright is an Everton fan and has been all his life and Mike Ashley fucking hates us. Aye, it doesn't stop Bictor fighting his corner though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 There's always been this lie about Everton that they don't spend - but Moyes was always backed fairly well & now Martinez is being backed. For Moyes A £15m Fellaini topped the bill but there was plenty of £6m + players here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bictor 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 We only needed to sign all of them because of who we've sold this year If we'd kept Cabaye and Debuchy, then yes I'd rather have bought Lukaku than signed those players. So for Everton to be "ambitious" they need 0 net spend. For us to be ambitious we need +30M net spend. Oh and their net spend in the period that Ashley has owned us is positive, not negative like ours. Less turnover too. Is that actually true? http://www.transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/transfer-league-table-last-five-seasons.html Last five seasons Newcastle have basically spent what they've lost. Everton have spent less. Not sure how up to date that is, but it's hardly "Everton spend loads more, we spend less!". And we have slightly more turnover now, but that went down a lot and took a while to come back up after our Championship season. Aye, it doesn't stop Bictor fighting his corner though I'm not arguing Mike Ashley loves the club and is the pinnacle of ambition. But our situation compared to other teams is no where near as bad as people want to make it out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 And equally as far away as from what is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Not sure that makes sense, if we are not that far away then if what is possible is equally far away, we are close to out potential. No? Also it's now noted that CSD blatantly makes stuff up to support his points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Not sure that makes sense, if we are not that far away then if what is possible is equally far away, we are close to out potential. No? Also it's now noted that CSD blatantly makes stuff up to support his points What have I made up? I said since Ashley bought the club and he linked to a table from the last 5 years. Go onto the same site and do the maths for both clubs, from Ashley's first transfer window. Spaz Edited July 30, 2014 by ClubSpinDoctor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Long balls only count if they hit their target? Everton massively outspend us? Doesn't take long to get a reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Long balls only count if they hit their target? Everton massively outspend us? Doesn't take long to get a reputation. If they're accurate, I was merely quoting the site that he pulled the stats from Where did I say they massively outspend us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I was being liberal with the truth. It's catching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Nobber Everton doing stuff like this does piss all over the C-Mafia's lower expectations campaign though, they must be seething. Pards should tell us how a none sovrin stayte clab has done that wifahhht oil money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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