ewerk 30620 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I assume he'd have been made aware if their plans before joining. Seems a crazy situation to walk into though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17281 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Youd imagine so, but theyre selling three quarters of last seasons first XI...sounds like hes been sold a wopper tbh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I read that he was haapy for 'any player who didn't want to be there, to leave', so he's brought this exodus on himself to some extent. Once a few go, others are going to start looking as well. Â Not sure I've ever seen such a wholesale dismantling of the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4762 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 is there anything on twitter about Koeman being ready to walk?...my saints mate reckons its on the cards... Going off his tweet earlier today I think he finds it a bit comical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30620 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 That wasn't a parody account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4762 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 That wasn't a parody account? Well it's verified which is as close as twitter can get I suppose so I don't think it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17281 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 hmm... Â http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southampton-board-cannot-blamed-exodus-3926519 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Having a read of their message board, it seems that they have a belief that the owner wants to sell, but can't get anyone to match her valuation. As such, she's fireselling players in order to realise their value and take it off the amount required to buy the club. Seems like a false economy to me as the remaining valuation will still be 'too high' by the same factor it was previously, but there we go I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Must suck to be a Southampton fan right now. So much promise disappearing right before their eyes. They've come through a lot in recent years too. Â How much is the Rodriguez fee supposed to be? Cant seem to find a quote. Quality player imo, worth a go at around 15M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) Â Schneiderlin and Rodriguez set to join Spurs too. The 11/2 to be relegated might be worth a punt. Â Popped a penny or two on that, wanted to do a Southampton/Sunderland double, but couldn't... for whatever reason. Â Betfair have us 6/5 to finish top ten. Now, I'm not saying we're totes amazeballs, but it's hard to see other clubs finishing ahead of us (after you get past the usual suspects). Edited July 29, 2014 by The Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveAustin 0 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 They will be relying on there youth policy and hoping the young lads come good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Â Â Betfair have us 6/5 to finish top ten. Now, I'm not saying we're totes amazeballs, but it's hard to see other clubs finishing ahead of us (after you get past the usual suspects). Aye, especially with the Southampton fire sale that's another team that will probably be below us. I really want us to sign another striker but if we don't I still see us being midtable, Riviere will probably get 6-8 goals (basing that on absolutely nowt mind, just setting the bar lowish for my expectation of him) and Cisse will hopefully have a bit more life about him when he returns with the variety of service he'll be getting. I think they'll start trying to bring a striker in on loan again towards the end of the window if they don't buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Aye, especially with the Southampton fire sale that's another team that will probably be below us. I really want us to sign another striker but if we don't I still see us being midtable, Riviere will probably get 6-8 goals (basing that on absolutely nowt mind, just setting the bar lowish for my expectation of him) and Cisse will hopefully have a bit more life about him when he returns with the variety of service he'll be getting. I think they'll start trying to bring a striker in on loan again towards the end of the window if they don't buy. Â I think the majority of our goal threat will come from the midfielders we've signed. I agree it's unlikely that Riviere will surpass Remy's total of last season, but I'd expect De Jong and Cabella to provide more goals than our midfield managed last year. Especially if Sissoko resumes his chance-creation. Â Of course I'd like us to sign a 15 goal a season striker, and I'm not sure if we've finished recruitment, but currently I think the goal threat is deliberately planned to come from the midfielders, not the strikers. Â Concerning the league, after Arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd & Spurs, I just don't see 3 teams finishing above us from; Â Aston Villa: Weak 1st team and haven't made any improvements. Senderos? Joe Cole? Kieran Richardson... Burnley: Guts, but ultimately they're going to struggle, especially if Ings goes. Crystal Palace: Pulis has made them solid, but like Villa, they've not yet made significant improvements to their 1st team. Hull: Bruce will keep them up, &I think they'll improve on their highest League finish of 16th last year, but they won't broach the top half. Leicester: They're trying to address the striker situation, but I don't think Ulloa is it. QPR: Still buying ageing names instead of addressing very real problems in the squad. 'Arry for the chop. Southampton: Fire Sale has destroyed not only the team that did so well last year, but can you imagine the message it gives those that've remained? Doomed. Stoke: I actually fancy them to do well this time round, but Hughes seems to have got the balance right between Stokeing and Football. Sunderland: Decent 'keeper, but if Borini doesn't sign they're woefully short up front. Altidore? Swansea: Will be there or there abouts. West Brom: I don't rate Irvine and he'd be my favourite to lose his job 1st. Reckon they'll struggle until he goes, then a brief resurgence. West Ham: Fucking Fat Sam. Big squad, but if Valencia doesn't pick up quick, they haven't the goals. Â Can one or two of those finish above us? Absolutely. Will three? Doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Agreed on all points, can't remember exactly but iirc Cabella got 14 last season. French league I know but still he's a fret, and Pardew clearly sees Siem De Jong as a goal scorer seeing as he refers to him as a striker. Losing Cabaye was obviously a blow but bringing these two in has given us a bit of flexibility in midfield and less reliance on a sole outlet. That list of teams man, looking at their squads and performances the league is full of shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I'm not sure we are that flexible in midfield, given that we've got no out and out wingers. Not that'll play anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 No we're not but we are a little more than last season since Cabella can play across the forward positions and De Jong is also capable in a few positions. It would be nice to have Grenier in as well as another striker and CB, but I dont hold out much hope of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I don't want us to be flexible anyway, Pardew's tinkering is a recipe for disaster. Our 5th placed season we didn't change things about a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I'm not sure we are that flexible in midfield, given that we've got no out and out wingers. Not that'll play anyway! Really?  I think we're very flexible; Moussa Sissoko Vurnon Anita Hatem Ben Arfa Jonás Gutiérrez Gaël Bigirimana Cheick Tioté Gabriel Obertan Haris Vuckic' Mehdi Abeid Jack Colback Siem de Jong Rémy Cabella Yoan Gouffran Ayoze Perez Sammy Ameobi  From that we could have; very defensive 4-5-1, a very attacking 4-2-3-1, a central midfield focussed on recycling the ball with Tiote Anita and Colback, a midfield three that aims to carry the ball box-to-box with Anita & Sissoko passing Tiote, a team with two hard working wingers looking to peg back the opposition wide men with Gouffran and Sissoko keeping the creativity in the middle, etc.  Decent mix of experience and youth in there. I just wish our defence and forward lines were as well populated with quality. De Jong, Cabella, Tiote, Anita, Sissoko, Colback would all be disappointed if they miss out on a 1st team spot. I'm hoping Gouffran, Ben Arfa, Abeid and Bigirimana are used properly this year though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I forgot Aarons who has done very well in pre-season so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 You made a list including HBA, Obertan and Jonas, who are almost certain to not play. Then you named loads of central players, a couple of who have been asked to play wide whilst here but aren't natural wide players, and many that are basically, completely shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I do agree that there are many options available in how we set up our central midfield though. I don't think we even have the players (that will be realistically used) to play a basic 4-4-2 without people being played out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7030 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I forgot Aarons who has done very well in pre-season so far. That's mental like, 16 first team midfielders. Even madder if Grenier comes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21924 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 We're looking to set up in. 3-7-0 formation next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 That's mental like, 16 first team midfielders. Even madder if Grenier comes  It would be more mental if they were all first team midfielders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Fresh enquiry tonight for Lacazette from NUFC according to Ryder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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