catmag 337 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 16 bairns returning from a school trip man Not to mention every other victim and day-to-day passenger who gets on a plane. Just absolutely horrible stuff made worse by the area in which it came down making it so much harder for the investigation to take place. RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Too much fly by wire in the Airbus imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32062278 So it sounds to me like the pilot who stayed in the cockpit either lost consciousness or deliberately flew it into the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) These pilots seem to be eveywhere but in the fukin cockpit. Same on the fh444 (iirc) pilot was having a nap and inexperienced co-pilot kept pulling the stick back through 75 stall warnings. Edited March 26, 2015 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza 105 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Sounds like the co pilot deliberatly locked the other pilot of the cockpit and crashed the plane, jesus. What a nightmare and what a selfish bastard that co pilot is. 150 dead because he wanted to top himself. Cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7084 Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 How the fuck can the pilot not override the cabin lockout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza 105 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 (edited) How the fuck can the pilot not override the cabin lockout? You think they'd be able too, mental. Seems like the security precautions put in place after 9/11 have back fired big time here. Edited March 26, 2015 by Bizza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Yup. Still you'd think that there would be some form of automatic override in the software to prevent things like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7169 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Horrific stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43064 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32063587 Blame being firmly laid on the co-pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15716 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Looking at it objectively, I suppose it's better that this was because of one isolated nutjob rather than a fundamental flaw in the design of one of the world's most popular aircraft or suchlike... although I suppose it just highlights a fundamental flaw in crew behaviour and post-9/11 air protocol instead, as mentioned above, so... Reasonably certain Parky will find a way of blaming this on the German way of life and/or women within 24 hours btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4411 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Do pilots have a mental health check programme? I can see why the locks issue is a hard one - a combination override would make it vulnerable to threats to reveal it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7169 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 There's not really a test to check if someone's going to do something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46024 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Nicely written tribute to a lass that was killed. http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2015/mar/26/maria-radner-my-beloved-friend-by-karen-cargill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Looking at it objectively, I suppose it's better that this was because of one isolated nutjob rather than a fundamental flaw in the design of one of the world's most popular aircraft or suchlike... although I suppose it just highlights a fundamental flaw in crew behaviour and post-9/11 air protocol instead, as mentioned above, so... Reasonably certain Parky will find a way of blaming this on the German way of life and/or women within 24 hours btw. Nah, this one is on the Jews... BBC saying the co-pilot had to interrupt his training for psychological evaluation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Bild say he had a year out cause of psychological probelms and had bouts of depression. Had to re-do his flying course 3 times. Was rated 'not safe to fly'.....Bild. If this is only partly true then you have to blame the airline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 So should airlines fire pilots for suffering from depression? If so then you'll see pilots with depression not seeking help for fear they'll lose their jobs, thus exacerbating the problem. Surely it's much easier to require a member of cabin crew to stay in the cockpit should one of the pilots need to use the toilet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46024 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Imagine the first time you have to do that with a pilot. "......alright?" "......yeah, just flying the plane." "....." "....." "The only way this could get more awkward is if you pointed this thing at a mountain." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think the answer is to have a dude in the cockpit standing by with a taser throughout the flight. Anyone acting the slightest bit crazy gets tasered. Anyone getting up to take a piss gets tasered. Anyone taking a nap gets tasered. The dude will look like Jack Palance or Charles Bronson, wear dark glasses and stare impassively at the crew in the manner of a Terminator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3964 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think the answer is to have a dude in the cockpit standing by with a taser throughout the flight. Anyone acting the slightest bit crazy gets tasered. Anyone getting up to take a piss gets tasered. Anyone taking a nap gets tasered. The dude will look like Jack Palance or Charles Bronson, wear dark glasses and stare impassively at the crew in the manner of a Terminator. With someone guarding him with a taser etc etc........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Good point. We'll need bigger cockpits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43064 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Never has this smiley been more apt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I think the answer is to have a dude in the cockpit standing by with a taser throughout the flight. Anyone acting the slightest bit crazy gets tasered. Anyone getting up to take a piss gets tasered. Anyone taking a nap gets tasered. The dude will look like Jack Palance or Charles Bronson, wear dark glasses and stare impassively at the crew in the manner of a Terminator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7084 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 The obvious simple answer is to make pilot's chairs toilets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 You don't need complex psychiatric tests to spot a wrongun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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