ewerk 31201 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I think HF is spot on with his prediction. There will be no massive net spend in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I think HF is spot on with his prediction. There will be no massive net spend in the summer. The only players that are (imo) guaranteed to be at the club next season are; Darlow Janmaat Taylor Lascelle Haidara Colback Cabella de Jong Perez Riviere Add to that some of the kids like Armstrong & Aarons who're on the fringe of the squad now... That isn't a deep enough squad to stay up which even Ashley sees, surely? That said, the amount spent may be moderate, but I think we will see a raft of new players joining Newcastle United. Simply because there isn't the squad here to survive another season like this one. Basically, that squad couldn't accrue 27pts by January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I think you're being pessimistic and also haven't you already said there isn't a separate pot for transfers? Mind you, we didn't have these kinds of figures last year and we spent £27m in the summer, didn't we? I believe we'll spend more than £20m, because we have to do that to achieve Ashley's only target; Premier League survival. NET spend this year was £18m. We could spend £30 - £40m in total, but players will need sold to fund that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 NET spend this year was £18m. We could spend £30 - £40m in total, but players will need sold to fund that. Perhaps, but there's plenty to be made in the sale of players. £5-9m Sissoko and for Krul £15-20m total for Williamson, Gouffran, Obertan, Anita, Marveaux, Tiote, We could get a decent amount in, buoyed by the funds awe already have, I think the gross spend will be an increase on last year's £27m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2207 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I don't think they give a toss how it looks to anyone but the Tax Man to be honest. So why do it then? Tax isn't the reason....you can't avoid tax by inventing expenditure. In any event there might be tax losses to cover any profits anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 The only players that are (imo) guaranteed to be at the club next season are; Darlow Janmaat Taylor Lascelle Haidara Colback Cabella de Jong Perez Riviere Add to that some of the kids like Armstrong & Aarons who're on the fringe of the squad now... That isn't a deep enough squad to stay up which even Ashley sees, surely? That said, the amount spent may be moderate, but I think we will see a raft of new players joining Newcastle United. Simply because there isn't the squad here to survive another season like this one. Basically, that squad couldn't accrue 27pts by January. I think you're massively optimistic to think Janmaat will still be here next season. If he's got any sense at all he'll be desperate to get away and I would think he wouldn't be short of options. His former international boss isn't fantastically stocked in his position for a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Perhaps, but there's plenty to be made in the sale of players. £5-9m Sissoko and for Krul That seems light to me. Sissoko has a good (if undeserved) reputation. If he goes it will be for more than £10m. I would guess £7m-£8m for Krul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 None of those 2 will leave. No bigger club will come in for them as they haven't showed any quality this season and will see it as a gamble. Even when we were shite, Cabaye looked a good player, those 2 just haven't this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Aye I think that could well be the case. I get the feeling that they would only be interested in leaving for a bigger club and I really can't see any of them being interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdStephenIreland 74 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Same, I don't see any bigger club coming in for them this summer. I would have been worried if we were well clear of relegation and were pushing for 7th or so as then they'd have shown why they are potentially a good signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Luke Edwards is going on about NUFC hiding profits in separate bank accounts. It's not the case. Above is how I see the club sitting with £34m in the bank after a starting balance of -£4m and an £18m profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31201 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 While he's certainly no accountant, at least Edwards is taking an interest, unlike Trinity Mirror Regional Sports Writer of the Year, Lee Ryder, who hasn't uttered a single word about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46030 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 While he's certainly no accountant, at least Edwards is taking an interest, unlike Trinity Mirror Regional Sports Writer of the Year, Lee Ryder, who hasn't uttered a single word about it.NUMBAZZZZZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22148 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) £20m net spend is about what we will spend. i fully expect the squad depth to remain weak and another season along these lines next time around. Edited April 15, 2015 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 £20M sounds about right doesnt it. Wouldnt surprise me to see a loan or two in there also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7169 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Our entire squad rebuild is going to cost half of Mangala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17653 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Swiss Ramble, doubt if theres anything in here that HF and other stat whizzkids ccouldnt tell us....in fact HF is probabaly CEO,Chairman and tea boy at Swiss Ramble... http://swissramble.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/newcastle-united-in-rut.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 His is a brilliant write up. Nowt I could possibly add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 His is a brilliant write up. Nowt I could possibly add. Funny gifs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 His is a brilliant write up. Nowt I could possibly add. Is the massive amount of cash we now have also a concern? I've not followed the details this time but it seems like profits were expected to be higher but came in lower due to unexpectedly high operating costs. Are the unexepectedly high cash balances relevant to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Is the massive amount of cash we now have also a concern? I've not followed the details this time but it seems like profits were expected to be higher but came in lower due to unexpectedly high operating costs. Are the unexepectedly high cash balances relevant to that? The concern in relation to cash balance is that we have almost certainly the lowest paid chief exec, the lowest paid manager and the lowest paid coaching staff in control of the 7th highest paid group of players while sitting on the 4th highest cash balance and 5th highest profit in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31201 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 £32.4m profit last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35583 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 That trend looks set to change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Fish 10963 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Turnover down, but profit up. Is that due to a 10% drop in the "Wages to Turnover Ratio"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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