hostile_statue 0 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 If Pardew was sacked I've no doubt we could get someone better, there would be a few managers queuing up, my problem is that Ashley wouldnt go for someone better, just someone who could suck his dick. FYP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 A load of Rubbish Fish. Most football owners are going to be extremely happy to aim for 6th to 8th. The chances of getting a new owner who wants to splurge all those extra millions to push for Champions League are extremely remote. More likely we end up with Venky types. No it's not, and that you state that it is, further proves your lack of ability to comprehend. I'm not saying we should definitely be gunning for Champions League, you dolt. It's not either/or. I'm saying that Mike Ashley could have us gunning for Europa and for trophies. Even if he stuck to the previous recruitment model, it would cost him buttons, but he'd rather be assured of 6th - 8th. I'm all for finishing 6th-8th, if that's the highest we can finish. I don't want an owner bankrupting himself and the club reaching for targets that are simply beyond our capabilities. I just cannot tolerate an owner whose stated ambition is fixed. 6th to 10th, don't risk taking the cups seriously. Unfortunately, there's bum all I can do, I haven't a Season Ticket to cancel, I don't shop at Sports Direct, so if I were to boycott the shop, they'd not notice. To claim you're happy (or simply to claim you're not appalled) with Mike Ashley's stewardship; is either wummery (my bet), or idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 No it's not, and that you state that it is, further proves your lack of ability to comprehend. I'm not saying we should definitely be gunning for Champions League, you dolt. It's not either/or. I'm saying that Mike Ashley could have us gunning for Europa and for trophies. Even if he stuck to the previous recruitment model, it would cost him buttons, but he'd rather be assured of 6th - 8th. I'm all for finishing 6th-8th, if that's the highest we can finish. I don't want an owner bankrupting himself and the club reaching for targets that are simply beyond our capabilities. I just cannot tolerate an owner whose stated ambition is fixed. 6th to 10th, don't risk taking the cups seriously. Unfortunately, there's bum all I can do, I haven't a Season Ticket to cancel, I don't shop at Sports Direct, so if I were to boycott the shop, they'd not notice. To claim you're happy (or simply to claim you're not appalled) with Mike Ashley's stewardship; is either wummery (my bet), or idiocy. Show me where the ambition is stated as fixed at 6th to 10th? Even more stupid a remark given we finished 5th the year before last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Aye and they learned their fucking lesson didn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Christmas Tree 4725 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Aye and they learned their fucking lesson didn't they? Well given Pardew blamed the shit season on Europe and given all the additions last January and Remy in the summer, Ashley may have been under the impression that we would again have a decent season this time round. Is it Ashleys fault that Ben Arfa, Sisokko, Santon, Cisse etc have all been poor? I think it's fairly obvious that had those players performed as they should, then we would be in a very strong position today, heading into a fairly comfortable run in. To argue anything different is pure stupidity or wummary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42455 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Who's job is it to ensure our players are performing at the best of their abilities, CT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17273 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 CT's flip flop -fucked up again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Who's job is it to ensure our players are performing at the best of their abilities, CT? Pardews, who if recall I wanted gone last Autumn when I could see relegation looming and was called a "drama queen" - PL I'm more than happy for him to be replaced. All I have pointed out today is that with first teamers back and a fairly easy run in, he could still qualify for Europe....... Would we look stupid sacking a manager who qualified for Europe 2 out of 3 seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Well given Pardew blamed the shit season on Europe and given all the additions last January and Remy in the summer, Ashley may have been under the impression that we would again have a decent season this time round. And what did they do to make sure it wasn't "too decent"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 "Alan Pardew's players can win a bonus for themselves, and club employees, for finishing in the top ten this season. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/bonus-promise-10th-place-finish-2850579#ixzz2tWMnqtvRFollow us: @DailyMirror on Twitter | DailyMirror on Facebook " There's the ambition being stated as top half (1st - 10th). " Pardew said: ‘All the Europa League managers in the Premier League this season got sacked this year, not surprisingly. ‘I don’t think playing on the Sunday after the Thursday night that you can get to the level as a team for the Premier League and I’ve been saying that ever since Stoke warned me when we went in it.’ Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2557152/Newcastle-boss-Alan-Pardew-isnt-surprised-Europa-League-managers-sacked-season.html#ixzz2tWNLUo44Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook" There's Pardew implicitly stating we don't want Europa (Leaving 6th and below) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 And what did they do to make sure it wasn't "too decent"? Tell Ben Arfa, Santon, Cisse, Sisokko to play with their boots on the wrong feet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 "Alan Pardew's players can win a bonus for themselves, and club employees, for finishing in the top ten this season. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/bonus-promise-10th-place-finish-2850579#ixzz2tWMnqtvR Follow us: @DailyMirror on Twitter | DailyMirror on Facebook " There's the ambition being stated as top half (1st - 10th). " Pardew said: ‘All the Europa League managers in the Premier League this season got sacked this year, not surprisingly. ‘I don’t think playing on the Sunday after the Thursday night that you can get to the level as a team for the Premier League and I’ve been saying that ever since Stoke warned me when we went in it.’ Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2557152/Newcastle-boss-Alan-Pardew-isnt-surprised-Europa-League-managers-sacked-season.html#ixzz2tWNLUo44 Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook" There's Pardew implicitly stating we don't want Europa (Leaving 6th and below) So then 1. Thats not the owner. 2. Pardew also said this a few weeks ago. "I want to finish higher than fifth. That's my best finish as a manager in the Premier League and I want to beat that." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 So then 1. Thats not the owner. 2. Pardew also said this a few weeks ago. "I want to finish higher than fifth. That's my best finish as a manager in the Premier League and I want to beat that." You cannot be this stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 You cannot be this stupid. Thats your usual remark when your caught out. You say the owner has stated we must finish no higher than sixth. When asked to back this up you post Pardew complaining about how tough the Europa competition is. You dear boy, are the one being stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42455 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 The club rep at a Fans Forum meeting earlier in the year let slip that Europe and cups were unwanted. Look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17273 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Top ten, fuck the cups. That's what Ashley's lackeys said and that's what Pardew insinuates at least every other week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Thats your usual remark when your caught out. You say the owner has stated we must finish no higher than sixth. When asked to back this up you post Pardew complaining about how tough the Europa competition is. You dear boy, are the one being stupid. No, it's my usual remark when entering into discourse with you. Because you're stupid. And say stupid things. Ashley sets the targets, Ashley sets the budgets, Ashley sells the players, Ashley doesn't buy the players. Pardew can dream about winning the fucking league if he likes, he's not going to do it at Newcastle while Ashley is in charge, because Mike Ashley is only ever going to provide uenough funds to attain top half finishes. That is his target. If Ashley wanted to finish higher, he'd have backed the manager when we got it the first time, he'd have backed the manager to enable us the best opportunity to get back into the Europa. He didn't. It's obvious to every single man jack of us that Mike Ashley doesn't value European competition because it costs x to get into the competition and returns <x in prize/sponsor/tv money. Same with the domestic cups. 2 Transfers windows and not a single 1st team player bought and we're shorn of the experienced squad players. Aye, Ashley definitely wants to aim higher than 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper 940 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 He said last week he'd love to finish higher than Man Utd this season. The worst Man Utd team there's been for 25 years now there's ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonMarshy 2 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 No, it's my usual remark when entering into discourse with you. Because you're stupid. And say stupid things. Ashley sets the targets, Ashley sets the budgets, Ashley sells the players, Ashley doesn't buy the players. Pardew can dream about winning the fucking league if he likes, he's not going to do it at Newcastle while Ashley is in charge, because Mike Ashley is only ever going to provide uenough funds to attain top half finishes. That is his target. If Ashley wanted to finish higher, he'd have backed the manager when we got it the first time, he'd have backed the manager to enable us the best opportunity to get back into the Europa. He didn't. It's obvious to every single man jack of us that Mike Ashley doesn't value European competition because it costs x to get into the competition and returns <x in prize/sponsor/tv money. Same with the domestic cups. 2 Transfers windows and not a single 1st team player bought and we're shorn of the experienced squad players. Aye, Ashley definitely wants to aim higher than 6th. Quite fucking true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4725 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 The club rep at a Fans Forum meeting earlier in the year let slip that Europe and cups were unwanted. Look it up. He said premier league survival was the priority ( a few months after nearly been relegated). What the owner hasn't said is that we're not allowed to finish higher than 6th, which is what Fish has pulled out of his arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 298 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 stay as it makes fuck all difference whos manager with mike just after free advertising and his money back. To those saying we are the same as lots of other clubs, I dont remember anyone elses having lawsuits and publically recorded scandal than what was shown in the keegan trial. Anyone who would willingly work under that isn't worth having, thus we have pards for the foreseeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonasjuice 0 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I don't want anyone managing this club, that would be stupid enough to want to manage this club... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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