Park Life 71 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Luque narf looked good in dat Utube mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Then again. £18m in a fortnight is almost double Ashley's max net spend in any year since buying us and the biggest 14 day outlay in our history. You change sides by the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 You change sides by the day.Howzat? Earlier today I quoted myself from January saying I expected us to spend big in summer. My issue is that people criticise Ashley where he's done OK and praise him where he's done awful. I've written here, on twitter, at the mag and my blog that Ashley is unfairly maligned for his transfer history. I'd want more spent, but he spends enough that we should be getting better results. Peoples won't give him any leeway there though. Ashley deserves unrestrained criticism for the financial decline he's presided over which has only been covered up by doubling TV revenue. But he gets praise on that score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 He's underachieved for what he's spent because of the areas in which he's skimped. Again... Cisse Best Perez Xisco The only strikers he's paid a fee for. No sympathy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) That's probably less in 7 years on our forward line than the mackems spent on Darren Bent. Given the fees received for Carroll, Ba, Best and Martins, his net spend on strikers is brutal. Edited July 14, 2014 by ClubSpinDoctor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 We'll sign another striker or two this window, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inochi 0 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 The highlighted bit is my problem. I'm 95% sure we won't sign a proven goalscorer, which will hinder the effectiveness of the creative types we've bought. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I will be. Heard similar in respect to us making no further squad additions after the Colback/Perez transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 The plan as far as I can fathom is the Monaco bloke for a fee and Costa Rica on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 The plan as far as I can fathom is the Monaco bloke for a fee and Costa Rica on loan. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Yeah we're loaning the whole of Costa Rica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inochi 0 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Aye, but you're just guessing, based on paper rumours. We'll likely get Reviere. I do think we'll have a stab at an established striker, too. That one is likely to run til the very end of the window. We won't spend big, unless it can still be considered a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Yeah we're loaning the whole of Costa Rica. Well I, for one, welcome the opportunity to get cheaper integrated circuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15716 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Well I, for one, welcome the opportunity to get cheaper integrated circuits. And dinosaurs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 And dinosaurs! any excuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Aye, but you're just guessing, based on paper rumours. We'll likely get Reviere. I do think we'll have a stab at an established striker, too. That one is likely to run til the very end of the window. We won't spend big, unless it can still be considered a bargain. The Monaco one has all the hallmarks. Relatively cheap and if he has a couple of good seasons a good sell on price. He's not rubbish and has come up through the youth French international set up. Costa Rica as part of the Debuchy deal seems likely as he's behind Sanogo (who imo is not as good as him). Ba going to Turkey and Remi haggling over wages with Arsenal AND Qpr. Berahino would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Heard similar in respect to us making no further squad additions after the Colback/Perez transfers. Mine's an educated guess based on our history of struggling to buy strikers though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Makes no sense and I don't think i would call it 'educated' as the evidence suggests that the club will bring a striker in. The only thing we do last summer was bring a striker in. We've brought Ba, Cissé and Remy in over the last 3 seasons. It's been way too little of course and not permanent with the Ba clause or Remy just being a loan but it would suggest some activity on that from this summer (whether adequate or not remains to be seen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Bringing a striker in and bringing a proven striker in are two different entities, and I don't think we will. If people on here do then that's fine, I hope we do too. I'll try not to turn into Leazes when we don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Bringing a striker in and bringing a proven striker in are two different entities, and I don't think we will. If people on here do then that's fine, I hope we do too. I'll try not to turn into Leazes when we don't What may happen in the future with regards to strikers isn't really relevant to whether you should be happy about signing Cabella though is it. The signing of Cabella makes me think we are going to have something worth watching next season so I am happy about it now. If we ended up with no strikers at the end of the window then you can evaluate the window as a whole as a failure but it doesn't change right here and now. As to whether or not we'll bring in a proven striker, that largely depends on what your definition of proven is. You could easily argue that Ba and Remy weren't proven having only played a few months in the premiership and having questionable fitness/attitudes. Both were very successful for us. Cisse wasn't proven either but he was amazing at first (before he was Pardewed). Clearly we're not going to be competing at the top end of the market where any player is concerned but that doesn't mean we won't be in for a player who has a good record. Most of the strikers we've been after have had that (even De Jong had a good record in Holland when we first tried to sign him). The evidence suggests that while not every striker signing we've made as been massively succesfull, they do realise that we can't try and go into a season with back up players in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 What may happen in the future with regards to strikers isn't really relevant to whether you should be happy about signing Cabella though is it. The signing of Cabella makes me think we are going to have something worth watching next season so I am happy about it now. If we ended up with no strikers at the end of the window then you can evaluate the window as a whole as a failure but it doesn't change right here and now. As to whether or not we'll bring in a proven striker, that largely depends on what your definition of proven is. You could easily argue that Ba and Remy weren't proven having only played a few months in the premiership and having questionable fitness/attitudes. Both were very successful for us. Cisse wasn't proven either but he was amazing at first (before he was Pardewed). Clearly we're not going to be competing at the top end of the market where any player is concerned but that doesn't mean we won't be in for a player who has a good record. Most of the strikers we've been after have had that (even De Jong had a good record in Holland when we first tried to sign him). The evidence suggests that while not every striker signing we've made as been massively succesfull, they do realise that we can't try and go into a season with back up players in that area. Of course it's relevant to how I feel about Cabella. I can't get excited about a team without any forwards. What's to get excited about? He's worse than Cabaye, so we're worse off. If he improves and proves to be as good as or better than Cabaye, he'll be sold and replaced with a worse player. Happy days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 How is he worse than Cabaye? In what way do you mean? Which aspect of his play are you referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 (edited) Cabella and Cabaye are two different players. One was a poor midfield schemer and moody fouler and the new is good looking, fresh and skilful who primarily does his business cutting in from wide areas. Edited July 15, 2014 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inochi 0 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Of course it's relevant to how I feel about Cabella. I can't get excited about a team without any forwards. What's to get excited about? He's worse than Cabaye, so we're worse off. If he improves and proves to be as good as or better than Cabaye, he'll be sold and replaced with a worse player. Happy days. Sunshine, lollipops... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 How is he worse than Cabaye? In what way do you mean? Which aspect of his play are you referring to? I'm going off his suitability to be a central midfielder in the Premier League. I don't know if that's where he'll play. It'll be either him or De Jong, neither are as good as Cabaye in that role though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClubSpinDoctor 0 Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Cabella and Cabaye are two different players. One was a poor midfield schemer and moody fouler and the new is good looking, fresh and skilful who primarily does his business cutting in from wide areas. One of them kept us up last season I'd say, because our form without him was disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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