trooper 940 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 http://www.nufc.com/2013-14html/squad.html Stole this from .com it looks worse than I thought it was. With the possibility of Coloccini Remy Shola Cisse and 1 or 2 others away in the summer ( Tiote, Krul,Ben Arfur ) there'll be nobody of any value in that squad. The term asset stripping will be very appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4720 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Kinnear was binned due to his lack of performance, I do think we'll see a reaction fom Ashley in summer whether its a genuine attempt to sell or considerable strengthening, he can't afford for us to be relegated and he will surely realise the good chance of that happening with that batch of players out of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graing 15 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Kinnear was binned due to his lack of performance, I do think we'll see a reaction fom Ashley in summer whether its a genuine attempt to sell or considerable strengthening, he can't afford for us to be relegated and he will surely realise the good chance of that happening with that batch of players out of the team. I would think that if there is a genuine interest in selling, he's probably already having conversations with a perspective buyer. He making any odd business trips lately? I'm more inclined to think that he will make some moves to shore up the talent over the summer in fear of relegation. Who knows, maybe Kinnear actually surprised Ashley with his incompetence. Long shot I know, but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3843 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Kinnear was binned due to his lack of performance, I do think we'll see a reaction fom Ashley in summer whether its a genuine attempt to sell or considerable strengthening, he can't afford for us to be relegated and he will surely realise the good chance of that happening with that batch of players out of the team. I don't think he was. I honestly believe he was brought in as a lightning rod and the plan was to not buy in summer and only buy in January if in danger. Mike has got exactly what he wanted just about guaranteed premier football with no outlay. He can now pocket all of this years TV money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10750 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 I don't think he was. I honestly believe he was brought in as a lightning rod and the plan was to not buy in summer and only buy in January if in danger. Mike has got exactly what he wanted just about guaranteed premier football with no outlay. He can now pocket all of this years TV money. I don't think Mike Ashley cares enough about what we think of him to employ a patsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonasjuice 0 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 People keep saying Ashley wants to spend as little as possible but over the last 5 seasons, due to sourcing value and negotiating well, we've made £45 million profit on transfers, £9 million a season. You can only do that if you actually buy players in the first place. How much profit can we make on the players we've signed this season? I'd imagine Ashley would be disappointed we failed to find any potential future profitable assets and has asked him to resign, that's more likely than hiring a very expensive patsy with a massive gob. If you were going to hire anyone to take the heat, why someone who at any moment could get pissed up, snap, ring talksport and tell the world what you're up to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6993 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Didn't realise HBA was on a free next Summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULSTER MAG 0 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Ashley will not make any money on any of the first 4 players listed, IF they are to go. Colo at an age now he won't command a big price, hopefully someone elsewhere will offer Shola a better contract, Remy ain't ours and Cisse going is only speculation. He will have to spend big in the summer regardless, but I don't know where the money will come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonasjuice 0 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Ashley will not make any money on any of the first 4 players listed, IF they are to go. Colo at an age now he won't command a big price, hopefully someone elsewhere will offer Shola a better contract, Remy ain't ours and Cisse going is only speculation. He will have to spend big in the summer regardless, but I don't know where the money will come from. Aye because we've already been overspending so much recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32794 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 People keep saying Ashley wants to spend as little as possible but over the last 5 seasons, due to sourcing value and negotiating well, we've made £45 million profit on transfers, £9 million a season. You can only do that if you actually buy players in the first place. How much profit can we make on the players we've signed this season? I'd imagine Ashley would be disappointed we failed to find any potential future profitable assets and has asked him to resign, that's more likely than hiring a very expensive patsy with a massive gob. If you were going to hire anyone to take the heat, why someone who at any moment could get pissed up, snap, ring talksport and tell the world what you're up to? How many times can a club source player clauses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULSTER MAG 0 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Aye Ant, brother used to manage them, still helps out. Played an odd game for them years ago.if your ever down playing Banbridge Town give me a shout, I live next to their ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Didn't realise HBA was on a free next Summer Let him go. 28 with a fuckload of weaknesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6993 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 (edited) And yet on his day he's still the best player at the club. We would be mad to let him go, regardless of his weaknesses. Ps. He's 26 Edited February 8, 2014 by TheRollingStones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monroe Transfer 0 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 And yet on his day he's still the best player at the club. We would be mad to let him go, regardless of his weaknesses. Ps. He's 26 He'll be 28 next summer (2015) - he's 27 next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 And yet on his day he's still the best player at the club. We would be mad to let him go, regardless of his weaknesses. Ps. He's 26 He's way past his developmental phase. He's been tried in every position in our front third without success. What you see from him today is the best he's ever going to offer. To be fair, the way he's come back from that injury is a credit to him, he's nearly come back as strong as he was pre-injury. To say he's still our best player on his day is a detriment to the squad as a whole - that only implies how shit the squad is. I don't disagree with your assessment, I just shudder at what that means as whole. At least you are realist though, there was someone on this forum who thought he'd be AC MIlan's next signing. Fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4720 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Ac milan who just signed adel taraabt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken 119 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Loaned, and he's 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7278 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 There's no way you can say that that's the best you'll see of him. His biggest weakness is his mental fortitude and decision making, two things that should feasibly improve over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4702 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 There's no way you can say that that's the best you'll see of him. His biggest weakness is his mental fortitude and decision making, two things that should feasibly improve over time. If he ain't got those by now, he's never getting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULSTER MAG 0 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 I play for Queens Grads, so it's NAFL and down area for our teams don't think there's much chance of me being down that neck of the woods sadly lol, rather be down that direction than ards or bangor mind. What division are you in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21823 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Ben Arfa would be world class with better players alongside him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21823 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Problem is he sees Shola ahead of him and decided to try and do it all alone. And who can blame him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10750 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Problem is he sees Shola ahead of him and decided to try and do it all alone. And who can blame him? He's also finding space but isn't receiving the ball, so drops deeper to collect and instead of beating 2 men (which is entirely capable of doing) he's facing 4-5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Santon is NOT a centre mid that is for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4129 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 He's also finding space but isn't receiving the ball, so drops deeper to collect and instead of beating 2 men (which is entirely capable of doing) he's facing 4-5. Aye. Hope this can change when Remy and Gouffran return on either wings with De Jong up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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