Howay 12496 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Just checked the Fox News coverage of the murder of Jo Cox - the comment section is essentially full of people stating that more guns would have allowed her to defend herself, and that this proves that banning guns doesn't make a difference... It would be a completely hilarious argument if they weren't 100% serious about it. There have been mass shooting in states like Texas and now the one in Florida, these are states with some pretty fucking loose gun laws so surely if we were to have this armed savior in the crowd it would be in one of these states. Time and time again this armed hero seemingly isn't there, funny that even in states with loose gun regulations people generally don't just walk about armed all the time... They also completely ignore the fact the utter fucking havoc adding more shooters to a terrifying, confusing and dimly lit situation would cause, the bloke walks in and starts firing his AR-15 off, armed hero number 1 fires at him, then another bloke sees hero number 1 and shoots at him, a few more start and it becomes like an old spaghetti western saloon shootout. I also find it ludicrous how petty they get, someone said automatic rifles should be banned and all these gun nuts jumped up and down going "DOESN'T THIS MORON KNOW THE AR-15 IS A SEMI-AUTO!!!" it is but the thing shoots as fast as you can repeatedly pull the trigger, they fully get the point the bloke is making but they're going to divert the argument to how he's so stupid that he doesn't know what is a minor point to regular people. The bloke was clearly meaning these military type weapons shouldn't be accessible by regular people and he's completely right, why the fuck does anyone need an AR-15? it's not like people hunt with them, so what else do you need them for? home protection? You'd surely want a shorter weapon in a close quarter situation, unless of course you're planning on mowing down a crowd of people. Regular people don't need guns ffs. I've never owned a gun and I've managed to avoid getting murdered or raped or whatever else they fear without having one on me at all times. My wife has a mental Uncle from West Virginia (ohhh jesus) and he constantly gives me the argument that we should all be armed in case the Government need to be overthrown I then tell him he could have access to an RPG and it'd not be much use if they sent drones after you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46024 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Ohhhh Jesus. [emoji38] Bill Burr style? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Ohhhh Jesus. [emoji38] Bill Burr style? Aye I saw him in Newark last night, he was quality so now I've got all his daft quotes in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46024 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Ah mint, he's coming over here but all the dates are just before I go on holiday and they all need a day off work and a night away, so I can't really justify it. Would def have gone if it had worked out better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) Ah mint, he's coming over here but all the dates are just before I go on holiday and they all need a day off work and a night away, so I can't really justify it. Would def have gone if it had worked out better. Aye I heard he was going over, he was banging on about how he's going to Ireland and Europe. I'm not sure how his 15 minute bit about how Hitler is a first ballot hall of famer in the top psycho stakes would go down in Germany . Edited June 18, 2016 by Howay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanMag 0 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 This came out shortly after Sandyhook but the argument remains the same, I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 So their love of guns has now convincingly won out in the battle with their hatred of terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46024 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/jul/07/dallas-protest-police-shooting-live Snipers picking off coppers at a protest in Dallas. More guns would have prevented this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I'd be amazed if this guy comes in alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7169 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/jul/07/dallas-protest-police-shooting-live Snipers picking off coppers at a protest in Dallas. More guns would have prevented this. Exactly 'if every cop carried a gun then none of this would have happ...... erm' Edited July 8, 2016 by StraightEdgeWizard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21983 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) Did anyone see that programme on the beeb this week about the white [supremacist] groups protesting against refugees and Islam in the US? It was terrifying, you've basically got armed militia entitled to legally walk the streets carrying fully automatic weapons. Something terrible is going to happen there one day. Edit: this was Texas btw. Doesn't Jimbo live there now? Edited July 8, 2016 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33829 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Did anyone see that programme on the beeb this week about the white [supremacist] groups protesting against refugees and Islam in the US? It was terrifying, you've basically got armed militia entitled to legally walk the streets carrying fully automatic weapons. Something terrible is going to happen there one day.Aye, I caught most of it. Was watching it with my jaw open, laughing in parts, shaking my head at the rest. Even if half of the programme was skewed/exaggerated it painted a fucking bleak picture of that nation. I genuinely struggle to understand how nothing can be done to start a deescalation of weapons. It has to start somewhere no matter how long it would take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7169 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 It's difficult, 300,000,000 guns that Americans have paid for. Why would they hand some of them back for free? I agree that they need to do something though, even if it's just stopping the sale of automatic weapons. It might take 100 years for the existing ones to fall out of circulation but it's a start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46024 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Did anyone see that programme on the beeb this week about the white [supremacist] groups protesting against refugees and Islam in the US? It was terrifying, you've basically got armed militia entitled to legally walk the streets carrying fully automatic weapons. Something terrible is going to happen there one day. Edit: this was Texas btw. Doesn't Jimbo live there now? He's in Houston I believe. Besides he's a massive racist, so he wouldn't have been at this protest anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I'd be amazed if this guy comes in alive. Called it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7169 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 They blew him up with a robot bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Using a drone was Plan B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46024 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 They blew him up with a robot bomb Allahu Roomba! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35571 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 RIP Sergeant Bash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 This loon has at least temporarily derailed his own cause, since the shootings there has been very little focus on the police brutality here, instead there is a wave of support for the police, this country has an obsession with anyone in uniform, but this has inflated it exponentially, now people are lining up to deliver boxes of donuts to police departments in thanks and support for their service. Talk about destroying your own bandwagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 On the other hand, stuff like this is still getting huge exposure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7169 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 He needs to lay off the bong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2991 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Bleed American We now have new steps in our deathdance with firearms in the United States: the mass shooting of police officers. And make no mistake: this Dallas massacre was as much about the availability of guns as it was, allegedly, about revenge. That revenge was for the murder of black men for the apparent crime of legally carrying guns while black. It wasn't supposed to go like this. The rhetoric of the gun "rights" crowd has been that citizen ownership of semi-automatic weapons like the AR-15 and others was necessary as a means to defend oneself when Barack Obama sent his jackbooted thugs to force you to pay your grazing fees or something else that is associated with "freedom" that is really just "breaking the law." In other words, it was supposed to be "Real America," in the parlance Complete-Ass-of-the-Week Joe Walsh, the former GOP congressman, armed whites facing off against a tyrannical federal government. That would show why one had to have the assault rifles and machine guns. It wasn't supposed to be that a black man might use those same weapons against the cops as a way of taking down authorities that had done harm to the black community. In the abstract, of course. Because these Dallas cops weren't the ones involved in killing any of the long list of black and brown men and women who have been beaten, strangled, and shot by the police. When innocents are killed, we can expect that other innocents will be killed in return. That is the cycle of violence. That is how terrorism works. You terrorize one group and that group terrorizes your group, even if you're not there. Dallas Police Chief David Brown wants to break that cycle, saying at a press conference today that he won't "militarize" his force because "We are not gonna let a coward who would ambush police officers change our democracy." Those are the most encouraging words that have come from this nightmare. (And, no, the cops who killed Philando Castile and Alton Sterling shouldn't be killed. They should be charged with a crime, arrested, and stand trial.) There is no way this doesn't, ultimately, come back to the insane proliferation of guns and the madness of our current gun laws. Without hundreds of millions of guns out there and the insidious concealed carry permits, the police wouldn't be constantly ready for a gun battle. Racism, stupidity, crap training, and guns everywhere are a mixture ripe for constant explosions. Without the ease with which one can buy an assault rifle (or whatever gun fondlers want to call it), it would be far more difficult to have the number of multiple homicide events and mass killings. And let's not even get into the juvenile, masturbatory open-carry laws, fit only for pathetic exhibitionists. This is who we are as a nation. We have decided, and we keep affirming, that it is so important that untrained gun owners be able to defend themselves from phantoms that it is worth the all the blood that is spilled. We have decided that "freedom" only applies to individuals and not to society as a whole. If you are a civilian walking around with a firearm, I would argue that you are very, very far from free. You are a captive to your fears, and you are using a perverse notion of freedom to it cover up. Some of us, many of us, want to be able to move through this nation without wondering if someone has a gun on them. Some of us, many of us, don't want anyone to be gunned down, not black men by cops, not cops by black men, not people at clubs, at schools, at movie theaters, at all the places where we die. Some of us, many of us, believe that guns are the opposite of freedom and that you shouldn't have them and most, if not all, of them should be taken away from you, even if, yes, we have to pry them from your idiot hands. We live in a prison of guns, floors slick with the blood of our dead, and we keep sliding around instead of cleaning up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14013 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 He needs to lay off the bong I'm convinced it's a similar situation to Maradona, when he had his picture taken after a short free kick and the wall broke making it look like he was skinning everyone. These cops drag people off and taser them for nothing, I can't imagine this lass was any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 There's another angle of the same scene and it looks pretty similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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