RobinRobin 11287 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 20/11/2020 at 17:27, Rayvin said: Whereas in this country we drop the pretense and literally just elect the devil outright. Fairy Nuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11287 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 20/11/2020 at 19:32, PaddockLad said: From the neck down she looks like a medium Oak Furniture land Ltd chest of draws So ... wood? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I’m glad nobody outside Labour pays attention to the NEC or the Corbynites. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 South Shields REPRESENT 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42460 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 29 minutes ago, Tom said: South Shields REPRESENT I’m surprised the Six-Fingered Specials haven’t claimed him as a MLF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15552 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 https://www.instagram.com/p/CH74UtxpFtY/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42460 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 “Tinted pedo specs” They’re not wrong, mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21951 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 I was sad to hear Suzanne Moore was forced to leave the Guardian. Here she explains why https://unherd.com/2020/11/why-i-had-to-leave-the-guardian/?=frlh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: I was sad to hear Suzanne Moore was forced to leave the Guardian. Here she explains why https://unherd.com/2020/11/why-i-had-to-leave-the-guardian/?=frlh Thanks for sharing that, it's a fascinating insight. I don't have the highest opinion of Moore, I think she's a thinly veiled misandrist, but it's illuminating how the Guardian has effectively shunted her out over trans rights issues. I'm on the Guardian side of that debate in truth, I think a lot of the pushback from feminists is coming from this idea that trans people are now coming to be seen as more 'hard done by' than women in their eyes - having said that, she absolutely should be able to make her views clear without 300+ colleagues denouncing her ffs. I won't miss her columns but I'm sorry to hear it ended in the way it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21951 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 i was struck by what she said about being censored more by the left than the right. "the left" in this country really has got itself into a bit of a pickle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, Dr Gloom said: i was struck by what she said about being censored more by the left than the right. "the left" in this country really has got itself into a bit of a pickle. Yes absolutely, the left has been far too intolerant of opposing views and dialogue for some time. I've fallen foul of it myself. It does sound though from another line she's put in there, that it's more pressure coming from Guardian US than it is from Guardian UK. And the left wing movement in the US over social justice issues is far more highly charged (rightly) than it is here. Another example perhaps of a 'broad church' organisation not really being able to live up to what it claims to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 https://www.instagram.com/reel/CIA9LMVlM_h/?igshid=zjv0pkeh17yo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr Gloom 21951 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 the new series of noddy is shit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17284 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30641 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 47 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: the new series of noddy is shit Dappy has let himself go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Starmer to back the government's Brexit deal if it manages to find one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30641 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 That would be a mistake IMO. They shouldn’t vote against but voting for the deal means that when Starmer criticises the deal at any point over the next four years then the Tories are going to come back every time with ‘well you voted for it’. Abstaining wouldn’t be the best tactic to win back the ‘red wall’ but overall would be the safest option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, ewerk said: That would be a mistake IMO. They shouldn’t vote against but voting for the deal means that when Starmer criticises the deal at any point over the next four years then the Tories are going to come back every time with ‘well you voted for it’. Abstaining wouldn’t be the best tactic to win back the ‘red wall’ but overall would be the safest option. Presumably the red wall seats are more important than the ability to say 'I told you so' as far as Starmer is concerned. Suggests that in reality, they think Brexit had a much bigger influence on last year's election than they've let on. I think they're damned either way - this move will cost them votes too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3900 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 53 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Presumably the red wall seats are more important than the ability to say 'I told you so' as far as Starmer is concerned. Suggests that in reality, they think Brexit had a much bigger influence on last year's election than they've let on. I think they're damned either way - this move will cost them votes too. It will fuck them in Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17284 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: It will fuck them in Scotland They're fucked anyway Looks like it will need independence and Labour to be capitalising on a poor SNP government for Labour to be strong in Scotland again...by which time it'll be pointless in regards to Westminster as Scotland will be independent..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Norman 4 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 On 25/11/2020 at 11:23, Dr Gloom said: i was struck by what she said about being censored more by the left than the right. "the left" in this country really has got itself into a bit of a pickle. This is happening everywhere. Glenn Greenwald has been forced to quit Intercept recently. https://taibbi.substack.com/p/glenn-greenwald-on-his-resignation Substack is becoming the platform for unbiased investigative journalism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, S Norman said: This is happening everywhere. Glenn Greenwald has been forced to quit Intercept recently. https://taibbi.substack.com/p/glenn-greenwald-on-his-resignation Substack is becoming the platform for unbiased investigative journalism I've not gone into the Grenwald stuff in too much detail but as I understand it, he was trying to publish unsubstantiated reports about Biden. I'm open minded on this but has any evidence come to light that weighs in favour of one side or the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Norman 4 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Rayvin said: I've not gone into the Grenwald stuff in too much detail but as I understand it, he was trying to publish unsubstantiated reports about Biden. I'm open minded on this but has any evidence come to light that weighs in favour of one side or the other? It started with a New York Post article who published some of Hunter Biden’s emails on his allegedly dodgy dealings in the Ukraine. The article was quickly dismissed by left leaning publications as Russian disinformation propaganda without them having any evidence of this. I only really followed this through Taibi https://taibbi.substack.com/p/10-ways-to-call-something-russian As far as I’m aware Greenwald simply wanted to dig a bit deeper and find out whether there is any truth in the Post’s claims, but was discouraged by his editors on the basis, that pusuing the story would hurt the Biden campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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