Renton 21322 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: FYP Bridget for PM and Lavery for deputy. Beauty and the Beast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44401 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 I would make an amazing Labour leader if they want an outsider. Charming, sexy, hilarious, enormous biceps. What are these idiots waiting for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 In other news, the US press has accused Bernie Sanders, a Jew, of being antisemitic. Wonder where they learned that trick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17079 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 What a completely unexpected surprise https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/new-tory-mp-ian-levy-misleading-nurse-1341425 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21814 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Jesus wept, he won the argument now. How about a little humility after a historic defeat? https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/14/we-won-the-argument-but-i-regret-we-didnt-convert-that-into-a-majority-for-change?__twitter_impression=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21814 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 23 minutes ago, Rayvin said: In other news, the US press has accused Bernie Sanders, a Jew, of being antisemitic. Wonder where they learned that trick... I had no idea Corbyn was part of the tribe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44401 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 34 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: What a completely unexpected surprise https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/new-tory-mp-ian-levy-misleading-nurse-1341425 J69. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 BBC staff express fear of public distrust after election coverage https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/dec/14/bbc-staff-express-fear-of-public-distrust-after-election-coverage?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard I don't think this is going to be enough from the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4371 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 It's not for me - someone deliberately decided to edit out the laughter and happened to insert an put of date clip which was better for him - mistakes my arse. I think the "majority he so deserves" could have been a slip where she meant to say "desires" but the other two still rankle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42069 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 One way they could regain trust is by not employing a shitload of fucking Torys in the news department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21322 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Didn't know @Dr Gloom worked weekends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17079 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Did anyone else know that Corbyn won an international peace prize in 2017 along with Noam Chomsky? Apparently it was widely reported everywhere except in the UK, 'curiously'. https://www.rt.com/uk/412667-corbyn-chomsky-peace-prize-geneva/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3809 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 14 hours ago, Renton said: Here's a funny thing. I popped into my parents house this afternoon. My Dad use to be firm believer in scottish independence. Now he's not and firmly wants the union to hold together. I'm the exact opposite. I was a firm believer in the union, now I think Scotland should seek independence despite the huge practical difficulties. It would be nice to hear the thoughts of Scottish voters like JJ (not KCG who isn't really a scot). Blatant racism there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11309 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21814 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Incredible. Perhaps we are about to hear cries of fake news media from this side of the Atlantic too. Everything else has been straight from the Bannon playbook so why not? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44401 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Lisa Nandy is considering a leadership challenge. I'd need to hear a bit more from her but I'd prefer her to RLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44401 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Corbyn to be replaced within 8 to 10 weeks according to McDonnell. It'll feel nice to get rid of all that baggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Let's unify the country by suggesting we scrap the license fee Something that will appeal across the political divide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21814 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 There was a caller on LBC just now who set out the path for future electoral success for labour and it is neither Corbynism nor social democracy: it’s a left wing economic policy, investment in the nhs, renationalising trains etc, while recognising the value of hard work - a tighter benefit system to cut the number of freeloading scroungers. Plus a right wing approach on law and order and immigration. That’s how to win back the labour heartlands. Unfortunately Boris Johnson has beaten them to it. I think the caller has point. The Workington man doesn’t want another Blair or another Corbyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42069 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Lisa Nandy is considering a leadership challenge. I'd need to hear a bit more from her but I'd prefer her to RLB. Tory press will crucify her at the first hurdle over this… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: There was a caller on LBC just now who set out the path for future electoral success for labour and it is neither Corbynism nor social democracy: it’s a left wing economic policy, investment in the nhs, renationalising trains etc, while recognising the value of hard work - a tighter benefit system to cut the number of freeloading scroungers. Plus a right wing approach on law and order and immigration. That’s how to win back the labour heartlands. Unfortunately Boris Johnson has beaten them to it. I think the caller has point. The Workington man doesn’t want another Blair or another Corbyn. I mean, that's assuming of course that the Tories have a fairly straight run over the next 5 year's which seems doubtful. I'm struggling with this though. There is a big part of me that wants to sack off caring about any of this and adopt the Tory "I'm alright, Jack" attitude. I mean I'm sceptical about where it is that the youthful and ideological left, who number several million based on this turnout, are going to cross over with the traditional working class. I'm not going to vote right wing on law and order. It's regressive, retarded and counter productive. I could be persuaded to vote to the right side of immigration since that battle has been lost so spectacularly - but many others couldn't be. It's not just about what the working class want. There aren't actually more of them than us. That's the problem here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21814 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I mean, that's assuming of course that the Tories have a fairly straight run over the next 5 year's which seems doubtful. I'm struggling with this though. There is a big part of me that wants to sack off caring about any of this and adopt the Tory "I'm alright, Jack" attitude. I mean I'm sceptical about where it is that the youthful and ideological left, who number several million based on this turnout, are going to cross over with the traditional working class. I'm not going to vote right wing on law and order. It's regressive, retarded and counter productive. I could be persuaded to vote to the right side of immigration since that battle has been lost so spectacularly - but many others couldn't be. It's not just about what the working class want. There aren't actually more of them than us. That's the problem here. It’s a huge problem for whoever takes over as labour leader. Labour’s traditional working class voter has finally gone blue. I don’t know if want to vote for the party that can win them back either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 52 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: It’s a huge problem for whoever takes over as labour leader. Labour’s traditional working class voter has finally gone blue. I don’t know if want to vote for the party that can win them back either. Aye, that's the thing. Especially given that we outnumber them. We need proportional representation. Which is apparently Farage's next move politically, so maybe we need to get to a point where we're backing Farage..? Just to get the right outcome in the end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30266 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Gemmill said: Lisa Nandy is considering a leadership challenge. I'd need to hear a bit more from her but I'd prefer her to RLB. Hold on a minute there. Not just a female leader but a lesbian too? The lisp thing works for women as well, doesn’t it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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