Alex 35044 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, Dr Gloom said: I stand up for the free press and always will and I think generally we get a bad press, excuse the pun. I think what we’ve seen from LK the past 48 hours is shocking and most honest journalists are rightly pretty furious. The press in this country doesn’t rank very well in terms of freedom / independence compared to most comparable countries tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21908 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, Alex said: The press in this country doesn’t rank very well in terms of freedom / independence compared to most comparable countries tbh Middling. About the same as France, below Germany and the nordics, above US and Italy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35044 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Getting progressively worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21908 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 There is no question that is satisfactory rather than outstanding - a small group of billionaires have a monopoly in legacy media which is skewed to the right. I do object to those who say all MSM outlets act in one voice as it’s clearly nonsense. I don’t know what the answer is. If isn’t twitter or other forms of social media or citizen journalism. You have the likes of Novara, Canary etc, which are also deeply flawed. And I’ve always been grateful for the BBC, despite its flaws. We are lucky to have it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3883 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Middling. About the same as France, below Germany and the nordics, above US and Italy Not as good as Costa Rica or Jamaica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21908 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 42 minutes ago, Alex said: Her getting bollocked behind closed doors (if this is even happening) is just another sign of complicity from her bosses Yes, I agree there should have been an emphatic apology/correction from the BBC. Despite it going out on Twitter she is representing them, with her blue verified tick. That brings its own responsibility and redirecting complaints and enquiries to LK’s half arsed apology tweet was an inadequate response from BBC PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44750 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21908 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: Not as good as Costa Rica or Jamaica. I’m actually not surprised Costa Rica is up there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42333 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: There is no question that is satisfactory rather than outstanding - a small group of billionaires have a monopoly in legacy media which is skewed to the right. I do object to those who say all MSM outlets act in one voice as it’s clearly nonsense. I don’t know what the answer is. If isn’t twitter or other forms of social media or citizen journalism. You have the likes of Novara, Canary etc, which are also deeply flawed. And I’ve always been grateful for the BBC, despite its flaws. We are lucky to have it. Me too, which is why it’s so painful to see it’s News department hijacked by Torys. In every other department it’s superb. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4246 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Gemmill said: Ian Lavery giving a speech in Middlesbrough. "Am absalootly buzzun to be heeyah!" I resemble that remark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Lib Dem candidate is urging all LDs to vote Labour in Stockton South. I'd kill for some of the Labour equivalents to do likewise. Raab's seat maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Although looking at the list there are about 3 Labour MPs who should consider it and 20 LDs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21908 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Although looking at the list there are about 3 Labour MPs who should consider it and 20 LDs... if only they got their act together at the start like the brexit party did with the tories, instead of this swinson can be PM bullshit Edited December 11, 2019 by Dr Gloom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44750 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Whoever is manning this twitter account isn't keen on Laura K. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21908 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 looks like raab might have been the source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42333 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Lib Dem in Cardiff throws his support behind his Labour opponent... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42333 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 25 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Fence Sitter in Cardiff makes his Jesus-sandal wearing mind up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44750 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 25 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Lib Dem in Cardiff throws his support behind his Labour opponent... Lib Dem candidate in Stockton South has done the same. And this one is in serious danger of turning blue. Criminal that Swinson and Corbyn haven't done this themselves today. Should have been done across the board in all the split vote seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42333 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Aye, but “Jeremy Corbyn isn’t fit to be Prime Minister”, whereas Swinson just “isn’t fit”. Still would, after a pint or seven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44750 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I'd go for a Viz-style mash of her tits then probably lose interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42333 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 After seven pints that’d be about the limit of my “would” too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 @Gemmill Is this potentially encouraging? Looks like the Yougov poll has given over 60s the heaviest weighting for years.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44750 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Definitely looks weird. It sounds like they ask people if they're likely to vote and then actually produce a weighting based on answer received. But when you compare it to historic levels it sounds like it's a bit of an anomalous result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5217 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Which means they've significantly overestimated old people turnout, and significantly underestimated young people turnout (I hope). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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