Renton 21393 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 37 minutes ago, Alex said: People in food banks saying they’ll vote for Johnson. I’m almost at the stage where I think they deserve what’s coming to them. I saw that interview, from Grimsby if it's the one you mean. Also pictured the bloke, who was morbidly obese, buying chocolate in the benefits shop. Type of editing/framing Gloomy does no doubt. Problem is though, how representative really are these vox pops? Plenty of people in his position won't be voting for Johnson but will suffer the consequences any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: these fuckers are actually going to win - what is wrong with this country? Does the audience reaction not give you hope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34913 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Renton said: I saw that interview, from Grimsby if it's the one you mean. Also pictured the bloke, who was morbidly obese, buying chocolate in the benefits shop. Type of editing/framing Gloomy does no doubt. Problem is though, how representative really are these vox pops? Plenty of people in his position won't be voting for Johnson but will suffer the consequences any way. I’m hoping they’re not too representative and did certainly wonder if it the Beeb’s shite idea of representation by putting equal amounts of each side of the divide on screen. But it doesn’t mean they don’t exist in fairly large numbers and I’m fairly bereft of sympathy for their plight in many cases. I also recognise the right is winning when one comes round to that way of thinking though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Aye. I've got no time for the angry gammons who tend to be retired and are frankly pathetic. Fuck them. But when I see parents with kids brainwashed by this shit I genuinely feel despair. The tories have been in 10 years ffs. They are the ones that have caused your situation. And you want more of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30370 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Just now, Renton said: Aye. I've got no time for the angry gammons who tend to be retired and are frankly pathetic. Fuck them. But when I see parents with kids brainwashed by this shit I genuinely feel despair. The tories have been in 10 years ffs. They are the ones that have caused your situation. And you want more of it? What are they voting for? Is it honestly just a vote on personalities? Because I can't think of any single way in which those struggling would be better off under the Tories than Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44498 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Press conference ongoing with Corbyn brandishing a confidential treasury report saying that basically all businesses (98%) in NI that export to GB will struggle to bear the cost of regulatory checks. *sound of horse and carts screeching to a halt.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30370 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Pity no one in GB is going to give a fuck. I had to fill out an EU customs declaration yesterday for a customer that covers us for two years and that was a ball ache. To do so for every order we send to GB would be an absolute nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44498 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Latest YouGov poll on remain/leave is 49/51. Fuck Britain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 How can you expect people to be any different with the amount of misinformation and lying going on man. Maybe we're the crazy ones for being so invested in it. Until the media does it's job properly, which it never will under the Tories, I don't see how this changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Alex said: People in food banks saying they’ll vote for Johnson. I’m almost at the stage where I think they deserve what’s coming to them. I keep wavering dangerously close to this too. The problem is that there will be no satisfying moment of clarity where they realise the truth. It's more likely they'll just starve to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44498 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Significant stuff in this leak. What was Laura Kuennsberg's response? Apparently it "isn't that surprising or secret" that 98% of NI businesses will struggle to bear the cost of regulatory checks. She is bought and paid for by the Tory party. Sky news correspondents are doing detailed drill downs into the slide pack, and this is her contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30370 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 I think she's right in that it isn't particularly surprising and has been confirmed by Steve Barclay in front of committee. But the Prime Minister has consistently and repeatedly lied about it and no one seems to care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 51 minutes ago, ewerk said: Pity no one in GB is going to give a fuck. I had to fill out an EU customs declaration yesterday for a customer that covers us for two years and that was a ball ache. To do so for every order we send to GB would be an absolute nightmare. I thought you wanted to be in a special regulatory and customs zone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Kuennsberg is a waste of space. Seems like something the militant Corbynistas actually got right early on. Of course it makes sense though when you think about it. She's fucking loaded. Of course she wants Boris to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30370 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, Renton said: I thought you wanted to be in a special regulatory and customs zone? I did if it meant unfettered access to GB as was promised. I knew there would be paperwork involved going east to west but not vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4375 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Young grad in our team complaining about Labour abolishing fees as she had to pay so it isn't fair - unless they repay her as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30370 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 I'm not a fan of the abolition of fees. Bringing them back down to pre-Tory levels would be fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44498 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Interesting, potentially encouraging thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44498 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Although the bloke at YouGov is saying they've factored in all of the above tbf... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4375 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, ewerk said: I'm not a fan of the abolition of fees. Bringing them back down to pre-Tory levels would be fair enough. Might be harsh but I'd make useful subjects free and leave fees for indulgent ones. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 I think the media have learned from last time. Too many forces coming together against Labour. Corbyn doesn't help either but I'm certain that we've been stitched up in Tory friendly press rooms this time out. Same as last time really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4375 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 I think the influence of printed media is waning though - I don't see that many undecideds choosing to buy the mail or telegraph. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 2 hours ago, NJS said: I think the influence of printed media is waning though - I don't see that many undecideds choosing to buy the mail or telegraph. Amongst the educated I fully agree, but I'm not sure for the working classes... Hard to imagine them digesting political commentaries, even pro Brexit ones, on YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30370 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Aye, the working classes are too thick to follow politics. When did you turn into a Tory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 9146 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 43 minutes ago, ewerk said: Aye, the working classes are too thick to follow politics. When did you turn into a Tory? bearing in mind working class sun readers pretty much kept thatcher's government in power for 11 years it's hardly a ringing endorsement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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