Rayvin 5223 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 25 minutes ago, ewerk said: Can Johnson afford to go to the polls while Brexit hasn't been completed? If they remove the whip from Tory rebels they no longer have a majority. That makes it easier for parliament to prevent no deal as would be rebels are no longer constrained by party allegiances. A GE leads to Tories suffering from Brexit Party gains and the big JC ends up in No.10 backed by the SNP. Â Polls have the Tories well ahead of everyone else on 33% as things stand. Labour are on 22%, LDs, 21%. Brexit Party neutered back to 12%. Â Johnson has done what he needed to in order to defeat that threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 The polls also had Theresa May's Tory party on 46% when she called the last election. I think the polls are going to be incredbily fluid given what's about to happen in the very near future and any Tory lead will fade. But it's impossible to predict anything with much certainty at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44894 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 If Labour and the Lib Dems don't come to some sort of agreement, they rub a massive risk of a Tory majority. You cannot take a chance on this electorate, it's fucking moronic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Surely it's too late for a GE now? The results would simply be to run the clock down to a no deal Brexit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) The GE gambit was that Boris sets the date for post October thus ensuring No Deal and running the election as the man who not only delivered Brexit, but also the one who knows how to steer us into pastures new. At least according to a number of the political commentators. Edited September 2, 2019 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4386 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Won't happen and I'm not sure it's actually correct morally but it would be funny if Labour just ran on a revoke platform - that would shut Swinson up at least.   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 17 minutes ago, Rayvin said: The GE gambit was that Boris sets the date for post October thus ensuring No Deal and running the election as the man who not only delivered Brexit, but also the one who knows how to steer us into pastures new. At least according to a number of the political commentators. Well exactly, which is why it's very worrying that Corbyn appeared to support the idea this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, ewerk said: Well exactly, which is why it's very worrying that Corbyn appeared to support the idea this morning. Â Yeah, this is the terrifying possibility with Labour. They need to resist that GE no matter what, and yet we all know they'll dive in, get destroyed in the GE, Corbyn resigns and none of it matters anymore because all that's left for whoever takes over to 'oppose' the government on is whether or not the poor have the right to food. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 That's encouraging I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 So apparently in his speech shortly, Boris will say that we will have a vote on a GE if the Benn bill gets through tomorrow. And the GE will be October 14th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 No GE and no extension according to the chubby liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Absolute bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17277 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 If he loses the vote tomorrow it’s a GE...which means it’s a a GE.  Before or after Brexit? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Did you not hear him? He said no GE. Unless he’s not a man of integrity... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 I’m currently down in Whitehall working on the EU Exit Strategy team. It’s funny because it’s true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Is there a strategy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17277 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Nice gig Alex.....are you on secondment or are you free lancing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35083 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 On secondment and to answer Rayvin’s question, (it’s data analysis anyway from my POV) but he should know that, in government, you don’t need a strategy to have a strategy team 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17277 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, Alex said: On secondment and to answer Rayvin’s question, (it’s data analysis anyway from my POV) but he should know that, in government, you don’t need a strategy to have a strategy team  When it’s all over are you going to do a TT exclusive expose on the innner workings of Boris’s Brexit??   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 25 minutes ago, Alex said: I’m currently down in Whitehall working on the EU Exit Strategy team. It’s funny because it’s true So you’re the one who has been deliberately fucking it all up. Excellent work, Agent Alex. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30616 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) So after Johnson is defeated tomorrow he’ll push for a GE on Wednesday for 14th October. No guarantee at all that he can get 2/3 of MPs on board for that. Edited September 2, 2019 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17277 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 As Rayvin said earlier Corbyn would be fuckin mad to go for that. So I fully expect a GE on 14th October... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11281 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 6 hours ago, PaddockLad said: As Rayvin said earlier Corbyn would be fuckin mad to go for that. So I fully expect a GE on 14th October... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20153 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/sep/03/hs2-to-be-delayed-by-up-to-five-years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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