Rayvin 6158 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 11:01, Meenzer said: k Expand I mean, unless you're better informed than the police anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33675 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 It isn't what you know, it's what you can prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6158 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 11:31, ewerk said: It isn't what you know, it's what you can prove. Expand So the police have no evidence of it being such, the video has no evidence of it being such, and as far as I know, the victim himself hasn't come forward to say as much. But the press found a Facebook page belonging to the kids parents so it is. I mean thats a very 2018 conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 16635 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 11:36, Rayvin said: the victim himself hasn't come forward to say as much Expand Weird that you were so quick to defend the women in the Weinstein case who took years to come forward because of the inherent power structures working against them, then, but okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6158 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 11:49, Meenzer said: Weird that you were so quick to defend the women in the Weinstein case who took years to come forward because of the inherent power structures working against them, then, but okay. Expand I was? And just... what you feel this lad hasn't had the opportunity, with all the media fanfare, to come forward and say it was a racist attack? I dont know what planet some people live on sometimes... If you're happy to hearsay a verdict of racial hatred then go for it. It's the kind of superficial, judgmental view the racists come out with when they accuse Syrians of all being rapists, but ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 16635 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 11:57, Rayvin said: I was? And just... what you feel this lad hasn't had the opportunity, with all the media fanfare, to come forward and say it was a racist attack? I dont know what planet some people live on sometimes... If you're happy to hearsay a verdict of racial hatred then go for it. It's the kind of superficial, judgmental view the racists come out with when they accuse Syrians of all being rapists, but ok. Expand As long as we're clear you think white women are more important than brown men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 6158 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I hate everyone equally. Especially May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 16635 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 12:01, Rayvin said: Especially May. Expand Finally, some common ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 19401 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 The French https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/10/macron-pledges-to-raise-french-minimum-wage-gilet-jaunes-protests?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other Macron needs to man the fuck up....he needs to start paying off government debt by making poor people homeless like wot we does ere... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 16635 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 This absolute spanner, honestly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 5342 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 12/12/2018 at 21:57, Meenzer said: This absolute spanner, honestly. Expand How on earth has he come to that conclusion? So thats Maths and Geography that aren't his strong suits...wonder what his strong suits are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 5222 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 12/12/2018 at 21:57, Meenzer said: This absolute spanner, honestly. Expand ???? I’m probably woooshed, but he’s just confirming the news that has been everywhere from the FT to the Guardian this week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 5342 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 12/12/2018 at 22:37, Christmas Tree said: ???? I’m probably woooshed, but he’s just confirming the news that has been everywhere from the FT to the Guardian this week? Expand Going off the diagram hes wrong, eyeing it it looks as though the fastest rise (ie the steepest upward trend) is actually the period between 2014 and 2016 or possibly just into 2016. From a wider point of view the graph shows that wages have stagnated badly since the brexit vote. 16-18 shows no overall rise. Which makes him look stupid considering his other views and positions taken publicly. From an even wider one, 8 of the 10 years shown are under conservative governments and, despite the fact it was on the down before they came to power, we're still not back to the level we were before Cameron became PM in 2010. Looking at the "current level" dashed line it looks like we're currently at 2011 level. Basically this is the sort of graph that a Conservative MP should be avoiding publicising at all costs, since it shows they've done the square root of nothing to improve wages since getting power. Instead he's made himself look a tit by showing it off and claiming it as a positive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33675 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 12/12/2018 at 22:37, Christmas Tree said: ???? I’m probably woooshed, but he’s just confirming the news that has been everywhere from the FT to the Guardian this week? Expand Wages are still lower than they were when the Tories took over you tit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14144 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 16635 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 12/12/2018 at 22:43, Andrew said: Basically this is the sort of graph that a Conservative MP should be avoiding publicising at all costs, since it shows they've done the square root of nothing to improve wages since getting power. Instead he's made himself look a tit by showing it off and claiming it as a positive. Expand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 5222 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 12/12/2018 at 22:54, ewerk said: Wages are still lower than they were when the Tories took over you tit. Expand But that’s not what he’s saying He’s saying exactly the same as the ONS, the FT, the Guardian, the beeb. In other words, he’s right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 5222 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 12/12/2018 at 22:43, Andrew said: Going off the diagram hes wrong, eyeing it it looks as though the fastest rise (ie the steepest upward trend) is actually the period between 2014 and 2016 or possibly just into 2016. From a wider point of view the graph shows that wages have stagnated badly since the brexit vote. 16-18 shows no overall rise. Which makes him look stupid considering his other views and positions taken publicly. From an even wider one, 8 of the 10 years shown are under conservative governments and, despite the fact it was on the down before they came to power, we're still not back to the level we were before Cameron became PM in 2010. Looking at the "current level" dashed line it looks like we're currently at 2011 level. Basically this is the sort of graph that a Conservative MP should be avoiding publicising at all costs, since it shows they've done the square root of nothing to improve wages since getting power. Instead he's made himself look a tit by showing it off and claiming it as a positive. Expand Nice try, but his maths are spot on. Yours however Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 5342 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 OK that ones on me. I tried to have a regular conversation with him, absolutely nothing personal in there and thats the response. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 37373 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 He literally isn’t worth it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 5342 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 On 13/12/2018 at 06:53, Alex said: He literally isn’t worth it Expand He's not. I thought, in an attempt to better myself, I would try a different approach, just answer the question, nothing remotely objectionable or even an opinion, just some actual facts. He still can't just say "oh right, ok" or even offer a counter point to prove my maths or interpretation is wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24213 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 On 13/12/2018 at 06:58, Andrew said: He's not. I thought, in an attempt to better myself, I would try a different approach, just answer the question, nothing remotely objectionable or even an opinion, just some actual facts. He still can't just say "oh right, ok" or even offer a counter point to prove my maths or interpretation is wrong. Expand One of CT's many skills is a complete lack of abiliity to understand or interpret graphical or numerical data. Instead, he just believes whatever politicians of his tribe tell him, uncritically. Hes not alone, which is why the country is fucked. Gammon's dont think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 37373 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 He’s thick, man. Not sure what’s funnier (yet more depressing at the same time) Raab drawing that conclusion from that graph or people like CT just accepting and having no concept as to why we’re laughing at him. It’s about as simple a graphical representation of data as you can get. Guess that’s what happens when you take a perverse pride in never having read a book. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14852 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) I've long thought, as a joke, that this human Weeble Wobble would argue that "2+2=5" if enough people told him "2+2=4" and here we are. Edited December 13, 2018 by Ayatollah Hermione 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51447 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 On 12/12/2018 at 23:45, Christmas Tree said: But that’s not what he’s saying He’s saying exactly the same as the ONS, the FT, the Guardian, the beeb. In other words, he’s right. Expand Please kill yourself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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