Rayvin 5176 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 minute ago, SpaceCadet said: Or instead of giving them just enough to survive their poverty we could give them the opportunity to leave poverty forever. The social safety net like any other net is easy to get into and hard to to get out of. And yet we are entering into an age where automation and robotics will make job creation for the individual even more difficult. Surely in the end, we need some kind of universal income or we will simply have to start a cull. I was also under the impression that claiming benefits was such a degrading and inhumane process now that very few who are capable of getting a job would actually want to go through with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Someone will still have to operate/maintain those robots. Claiming benefits isn't degrading, where you are doesn't mean it's where you're necessarily going to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3809 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Just now, SpaceCadet said: Someone will still have to operate/maintain those robots. Claiming benefits isn't degrading, where you are doesn't mean it's where you're necessarily going to be. No they won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Just now, SpaceCadet said: Someone will still have to operate/maintain those robots. You really don't understand what's coming. This isn't some 1950s version of a housekeeping robot. Most of us are getting replaced by code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 And before you say someone has to write the code, go read something other than mises.org. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21286 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Automation could create utopia or hell on earth. I know where my money is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 minute ago, adios said: And before you say someone has to write the code, go read something other than mises.org. Does this count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15396 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Just got a "Good morning! Today is election day" leaflet through from Labour. Apparently they're so confident round this way that they'll happily send people to the polling station on the wrong day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) Bless, he's reading Rand. Do you believe in progressive taxation? Edited May 2, 2018 by adios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3809 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 minute ago, SpaceCadet said: Does this count? No because Ayn Rand knew fuck all about AI and automation either. Mind the person holding that book has fucking tiny hands and shit tattoos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Just now, Meenzer said: Just got a "Good morning! Today is election day" leaflet through from Labour. They're so confident round this way that they'll happily send people to the polling station on the wrong day. I didn't know Diane Abacus was in charge of leaflet production also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4718 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: I didn't know Diane Abacus was in charge of leaflet production also She isn't, why would the shadow home secretary be involved in that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Just now, Andrew said: She isn't, why would the shadow home secretary be involved in that? It was a joke, getting days wrong/getting numbers wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Seeing as 80% of your posts are laughable we're going to have to come up with some kind of marker for your "jokes". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30256 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 It wasn't funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Just now, adios said: Seeing as 80% of your posts are laughable we're going to have to come up with some kind of marker for your "jokes". 2 will be the marker from now on. My tattoos are ace KCG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Was that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15396 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34831 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: My tattoos are ace KCG Do you like octopuses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21812 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 36 minutes ago, Rayvin said: How about thinking of society this way - by giving poor people welfare, you are in effect paying them not to kill you and take everything you own by force. So I could argue that the rich are being allowed to keep the manmade concept of wealth under a system they do very well within, on the proviso that they give those at the bottom enough to justify their continued apathy to the concept of change. So they're being 'handed' stability in which to make money and enjoy their lives, by paying out welfare. The lower the welfare payment, the lower the stability. If you’re wealthy and you still have a problem with paying higher taxes to enable the welfare state to support the poorest in society, you’re basically a cunt. Or a Tory, in other words. If you’re poor, vote for the party to help yourself. If you’re comfortable, or wealthy, vote for the party that will help others. Simple when you spell it out. Unfortunately the world is full of greedy selfish wankers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 We also seem to have this new American ideal now where impoverished turkeys like CT and SC are voting for Christmas themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4718 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 22 minutes ago, SpaceCadet said: It was a joke, getting days wrong/getting numbers wrong. sure it was, the other side have no record of that do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15396 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Andrew said: sure it was, the other side have no record of that do they? I'll see if I can get a comment from the candidates for Ward/Area Name. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceCadet 5 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, Alex said: Do you like octopuses? I do actually, I have a sea creature theme at the bottom and a woodland creature theme at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34831 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Just now, SpaceCadet said: I do actually, I have a sea creature theme at the bottom and a woodland creature theme at the top. In felt tip pen apparently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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