Christmas Tree 4685 Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, ewerk said: Why do GPS appear to earn more than junior doctors working in a hospital? Given the 9-5 hours they do you’d think it’d be an easier job. Isnt it because a GP is a fully trained doctor and a junior is still training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30242 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Junior doctors are simply those who haven't been promoted to consultant AFAIA. So they could doctors with twenty years experience. Most of the GPs in my local clinic are in their 30's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21272 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, ewerk said: Junior doctors are simply those who haven't been promoted to consultant AFAIA. So they could doctors with twenty years experience. Most of the GPs in my local clinic are in their 30's. It's rare to remain a registrar for 20 years except for the most popular fields (surgery). GPs have my utmost respect. Incredibly difficult job and no way is it 9 to 5 with the volume of paperwork. There's a crisis of GP recruitment in this country for a reason. Pay is modest for salaried GPs, it's only when they become partners they get pay equivalent to consultants. This doesn't always happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6986 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 He manages to surprise me time and time again POTUS having a "Im harder than you" argument over twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30242 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 So do they earn the same as their hospital equivalents or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30242 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: He manages to surprise me time and time again POTUS having a "Im harder than you" argument over twitter 'Presidential'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21272 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, ewerk said: So do they earn the same as their hospital equivalents or not? They might, but they're not on an equivalent scale. General practice is not part of the NHS. Individual practices are essentially independent with money coming straight from DH according to practice size and QoF indications. Salary is dependent on whether you are a partner of the practice or salaried employee. The former will typically take home 80k plus, the latter 50k. Which is pretty low, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21272 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, ewerk said: 'Presidential'. This is insane, needs to go in precedent Trump thread though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30242 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Renton said: They might, but they're not on an equivalent scale. General practice is not part of the NHS. Individual practices are essentially independent with money coming straight from DH according to practice size and QoF indications. Salary is dependent on whether you are a partner of the practice or salaried employee. The former will typically take home 80k plus, the latter 50k. Which is pretty low, imo. Ah right, that's a bit clearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34822 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: He manages to surprise me time and time again POTUS having a "Im harder than you" argument over twitter The irony is he'll be soft as shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13794 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 He’s learned from his stint in wrestling, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30242 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Ok i had no idea what was wrong with that at first. Wealthy white guys playing monopoly on the backs of the poor and minorities. Sounds about right and is totally standard fare for the current art scene. Then it turns out that they are meant to be wealthy Jewish guys? And then we have antisemitism in the mix, and cardinal sins being committed. Curious though, are the individuals portrayed specific people or just random stereotypical 'jews'. If specific people, are they all Jewish? Are they actually wealthy white guys who made money off the backs of the poor? Need more info really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4685 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30242 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I’m sure it all a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 ...yeah if cynicism is all we have going on as evidence of antisemitism here I'm going to ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30242 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Glad to see that someone is stepping up and taking on the Parky mantle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Wouldn't Parky just have backed the antisemite angle and said it was true? I'm asking for someone to explain to me if those men are actually meant to be Jewish. Cos honestly, it might just be that I'm checking on my phone or whatever, but they just look like rich white guys to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4685 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Wouldn't Parky just have backed the antisemite angle and said it was true? I'm asking for someone to explain to me if those men are actually meant to be Jewish. Cos honestly, it might just be that I'm checking on my phone or whatever, but they just look like rich white guys to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 35 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Wouldn't Parky just have backed the antisemite angle and said it was true? I'm asking for someone to explain to me if those men are actually meant to be Jewish. Cos honestly, it might just be that I'm checking on my phone or whatever, but they just look like rich white guys to me. I don't know what religion well-known industrialists Karl and Groucho Marx practised, but I defo see them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 30 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Well I haven't noticed. I can see the references to the Illuminati, freemasons and the NWO but that's not a Jewish specific phenomenon. Who are the men depicted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5176 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) OK look, I just went and researched it myself - they're not specific individuals, and the artist claims to have depicted white and Jewish bankers as a criticism of the class system etc etc, but that it wasn't intended to be antisemitic. I rather suspect that it was intended to be antisemitic based on that comment, as I don't see the need to have 'white and jewish'. Why not just 'bankers'. If there was a single Star of David on there, I would probably concede this point. But to me, they just looked like rich white men running the world and crushing the rest of us. Does it make me anti-semitic that I haven't assumed these men were Jewish? Edited March 24, 2018 by Rayvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30242 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 No, just uneducated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21272 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 And the lord said to Moses, All Jews shall have big noses, All except for Aaron, For he shall have a square one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Rayvin said: OK look, I just went and researched it myself - they're not specific individuals, and the artist claims to have depicted white and Jewish bankers as a criticism of the class system etc etc, but that it wasn't intended to be antisemitic. I rather suspect that it was intended to be antisemitic based on that comment, as I don't see the need to have 'white and jewish'. Why not just 'bankers'. If there was a single Star of David on there, I would probably concede this point. But to me, they just looked like rich white men running the world and crushing the rest of us. Does it make me anti-semitic that I haven't assumed these men were Jewish? I wasn't genuinely saying they were specific individuals btw. It's not an assumption that they're Jewish, several of them are Jewish caricatures. A rather disproportionate number of the general population, though maybe a fair proportion of the banking community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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