Gemmill 44967 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 7 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: distancing himself from her, and having her sack him and being out of government when the whole thing falls apart, is exactly his game plan, paving the way for him to swoop in, once we're out of europe and the country on its knees, to save the say. the way he has put his own personal ambition ahead of the national interest is an absolute disgrace and he'll rightly go down in the history books, along with cameron, as one of the worst and most self serving politicians of all time. Add May to the list if she's keeping him in that job for her own personal concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 It has to come crashing down, surely. They're not going to hobble on like this until Brexit is through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21959 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Add May to the list if she's keeping him in that job for her own personal concerns. it's hard to know wtf may's thinking is. unbelievable that she's clinging to power, and to what end. i suppose she's trying to just keep the tories in office, so at least you could say with her it's party political ambition rather than personal ambition. every time another crisis unfolds for the tories you think may has to go, but she doesn't. i thought she was fucked after the snap election disaster which, let's not forget, was called to strengthen her position; i thought she was fucked after the cowardly way she handled the grenfell tragedy; i thought she was fucked after her holocaust of a conference speech; i thought the sexual harassment scandal might see her off and yet she still clings on. it's the fear of an election, the lack of alternative leaders and the fact that any alternatives (like bojo) are fucked if they want to assume power during the brexit negotiations. Edited November 7, 2017 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 They're being shored up by the Leave vote still IMO... The leavers presumably know that Brexit comes tumbling down if the Tories collapse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35100 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: it's hard to know wtf may's thinking is. unbelievable that she's clinging to power, and to what end. i suppose she's trying to just keep the tories in office, so at least you could say with her it's party political ambition rather than personal ambition. every time another crisis unfolds for the tories you think may has to go, but she doesn't. i thought she was fucked after the snap election disaster which, let's not forget, was called to strengthen her position; i thought she was fucked after her the cowardly way she handled the grenfell tragedy; i thought she was fucked after her holocaust of a conference speech; i thought the sexual harassment scandal might see her off and yet she still clings on. it's the fear of an election, the lack of alternative leaders and the fact that the alternative leaders (like bojo) are fucked if they want to assume power during the brexit negotiations. I think there's a canny bit of personal ambition too, i.e. desperately clinging onto what she's wanted all her political career and it's not like she's going to make a comeback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21959 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 it's a funny one: every day she remains in power she's reminded of how she's fucked it all up, but i guess the alternative is slipping into obscurity. i imagine her self esteem has quite rightly taken a battering. if she had anything about her, she'd have resigned long ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13886 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 It must be wholly, existentially depressing to spend a lifetime working toward a dream, achieving it and then having the circumstances surrounding that success be so calamitous that it probably doesn't feel like an achievement. Absolutely no part of her day can't be utterly soul crushing on a massive, overwhelming scale. Not that I'm arsed, the sour faced, evil bitch. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35100 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: It must be wholly, existentially depressing to spend a lifetime working toward a dream, achieving it and then having the circumstances surrounding that success be so calamitous that it probably doesn't feel like an achievement. Absolutely no part of her day can't be utterly soul crushing on a massive, overwhelming scale. Not that I'm arsed, the sour faced, evil bitch. You'd like to think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21959 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 13 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: It must be wholly, existentially depressing to spend a lifetime working toward a dream, achieving it and then having the circumstances surrounding that success be so calamitous that it probably doesn't feel like an achievement. Absolutely no part of her day can't be utterly soul crushing on a massive, overwhelming scale. Not that I'm arsed, the sour faced, evil bitch. how the fuck she managed to pick herself up and go into work every day after that conference speech nightmare, only she knows. i imagine it's not unlike battered wife syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 May just cruises from one shambles to the next with such guile and grace it has to be applauded surely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44967 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Patel flying home to be sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I don't quite understand how Patel gets sacked and Johnson doesn't, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30646 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Smaller fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Basically confirms that May doesn't have the authority she should have though. Weakness is rampant in the government, how can anyone expect that they will be able to deliver any manner of successful Brexit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13886 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Blatant racism tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11402 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21959 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 is patel flying back to sack may? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 https://twitter.com/MarcusDysch/status/928207754866712578 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr Gloom 21959 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 38 minutes ago, Rayvin said: https://twitter.com/MarcusDysch/status/928207754866712578 that's what i was getting at in my post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44967 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 The rebuttal of the Jewish Chronicle has come back from the PM, but I'm not even sure they're denying what they've been accused of. They don't even know what they're supposed to be lying about anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Seriously, how much of this shit can the government take before it's on its knees The end must be in sight now, surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15552 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 brendafrombristol.gif on standby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 24 minutes ago, Gemmill said: The rebuttal of the Jewish Chronicle has come back from the PM, but I'm not even sure they're denying what they've been accused of. They don't even know what they're supposed to be lying about anymore. Giving money to Israel ffs! They get billions every year from America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44967 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Here he goes. Light the jew touchpaper...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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