Rayvin 5219 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 We should start a new politics thread just so that he can't communicate through avatar anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Uncanny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I'm on board with Parky. Â He overestimates Bregret, but the banks have told May she has to sort this shit out. Open a door for a party or coalition that will reverse brexit. Â The only people standing in their way are Corbyn and the British public. Can't trust those fucking mugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15524 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Uncanny  That's Patrick off of Spongebob, surely?   ...I see your point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5219 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I'm on board with Parky. Â He overestimates Bregret, but the banks have told May she has to sort this shit out. Open a door for a party or coalition that will reverse brexit. Â The only people standing in their way are Corbyn and the British public. Can't trust those fucking mugs. Â You reckon? Â It'll be interesting to see their manifesto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) I see CT has paid us another visit. Â Parky, out of interest, whose side are you on in this? The absolute priority is to modify Brexit. Other stuff will have to wait for now. Edited April 18, 2017 by Park Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 It'll be interesting to see their manifesto. 1 page. 3 words. Â "Brexit means Brexit" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017  I own a Phone and use an App   You're so 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15524 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 1 page. 3 words. Â "Brexit means Brexit" Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Why the fuck did she wait until Article 50 was triggered before announcing this? We've started the countdown and are going to waste the first two months on an election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5219 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Why the fuck did she wait until Article 50 was triggered before announcing this? We've started the countdown and are going to waste the first two months on an election. Â Maybe because there's no hope of concluding things within that timeframe anyway? And also I guess because if she didn't, the Tories would have a weaker hand going into the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5219 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I also suspect that her claim that the decision was made recently is true. I genuinely don't think she's a smart politician, just an opportunistic one. This could literally all be down to the polls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 You're so 2017.It's not me typing that, it's the site Admin being naughty and fixing it as my signature on all posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerbarton 24 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Labour are already down to their core seats. They won't lose any of those. Lib Dems will get back 25 odd seats from Tories. May has fucked up. Lot of these polls are about Corby popularity and voting intentions based on vague pledges. That is all out the window now. Forget the polls. Brexit will be the key issue. Battle of Britain has begun. I think they really can lose their core seats. We saw it in Copeland - okay, there was the nuclear issue, but a government clawing back a seat from the opposition? In virtually all recent polls, the Tories have a commanding lead over Labour among C2DEs. They've been losing working class support since the early 2000s, but Corbyn's leadership has accelerated the process.  I hope Labour are able to cling onto their 2015 voters, but there was even a poll out last week showing that less than half of those 2015 Labour voters think Corbyn would make a better PM than May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 The absolute priority is to modify Brexit. Other stuff will have to wait for now.  51% of the electorate want brexit. 49% want to remain.  If it's a single issue election, and the tories are getting the entire 51% of the brexiters and Labour, SNP, Lib Dem, Green and whatever else are sharing the other 49%, how do the Tories lose any significant number of seats to this fractured opposition?  It would require a coalition of the SNP to take all of Scotland (easy enough), Lib Dems to win back all their tory marginals (somewhat challenging) and Labour would have to win back everyone it has lost with Corbyn at the helm, as well as the large number of Labour voters that actually want Brexit...while running on not brexiting (impossible?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Corbyn the man who was meant to take Labour back to its core values to lose their core support? Aye, all too believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5219 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 51% of the electorate want brexit. 49% want to remain.  If it's a single issue election, and the tories are getting the entire 51% of the brexiters and Labour, SNP, Lib Dem, Green and whatever else are sharing the other 49%, how do the Tories lose any significant number of seats to this fractured opposition?  It would require a coalition of the SNP to take all of Scotland (easy enough), Lib Dems to win back all their tory marginals (somewhat challenging) and Labour would have to win back everyone it has lost with Corbyn at the helm, as well as the large number of Labour voters that actually want Brexit...while running on not brexiting (impossible?).  You're assuming turnout is the same. It won't be, and it won't be in favour of Remain.  That said, you're otherwise right - that coalition needs to exist in principle even if not in a formal sense. I would add that they can take the middle road of single market access which the vast majority of Remainers would accept, and potentially a decent number of Brexiters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 We should start a new politics thread just so that he can't communicate through avatar anymore. Â Election 2017 thread anyone? I'll give you an hour then I'll start one myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5219 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Corbyn the man who was meant to take Labour back to its core values to lose their core support? Aye, all too believable. Â Not sure about returning to its principles, but he was supposed to shake things up and move them leftwards. All of this he did, but Brexit has killed him off. Without Brexit, what would the Tories have used to reach out to people desperate for change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Election 2017 thread anyone? I'll give you an hour then I'll start one myself Needs careful thought. I could start it and support the tories to ensure they lose, but I'd have to actually vote for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Needs careful thought. I could start it and support the tories to ensure they lose, but I'd have to actually vote for them. Â Well, as it stands I do not know who I'll vote for at all so maybe I am a safe pair of hands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Well, as it stands I do not know who I'll vote for at all so maybe I am a safe pair of hands? Andrew don't start any threads. Don't have enough blood on your hands? Sheeesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Andrew don't start any threads. Don't have enough blood on your hands? Sheeesh. Â You do it! It's perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 You do it! It's perfect! I can't. My powers are better stealth. Satellites will change course. The drop box will be monitored. The supermarket bulletin board will be scanned. Kaufhof will put their baked beans up 10 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5219 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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