Politics

[Park Life 71]

Aye. Relocate them to New Cross, they'll actually raise the tone around here.

 

 

how much are rental values in london Meenz?

 

How long is a piece of string? It varies from street to street here, never mind neighbourhood to neighbourhood or borough to borough...

 

Gardens and frontage...Don't forget that.

[Meenzer 15371]

"Why do we pay for the BBC anyway?"

 

to avoid watching another version of ITV

 

Why watch telly anyway? Get rid.

 

 

Aye, because the BBC is just a television station.

 

And even if it was, ten minutes tuned into BBC FOUR of an evening would quickly put things into perspective compared with the utter dross served up by every other channel. I'm happy to pay my licence fee for that, never mind the radio, web and other benefits they provide. But hey, it's easy and fashionable to bash the Beeb, so let's all stick the boot in and end up like Germany where fucking RTL II reflects the mood of the nation.

[Park Life 71]

Parky's so confused.

 

Bitter and angry that money gets stolen from the needy and handed to the banks and big business.

 

Bitter that the needy get a free ride and all the protection that regulation provides them.

 

Are you an old school Commy Parky?

 

Not sure what's wrong with cutting from both sides of the cheese? I'm a free thinker and a healer. The planet is safe.

[Park Life 71]

"Why do we pay for the BBC anyway?"

 

to avoid watching another version of ITV

 

Why watch telly anyway? Get rid.

 

 

Aye, because the BBC is just a television station.

 

And even if it was, ten minutes tuned into BBC FOUR of an evening would quickly put things into perspective compared with the utter dross served up by every other channel. I'm happy to pay my licence fee for that, never mind the radio, web and other benefits they provide. But hey, it's easy and fashionable to bash the Beeb, so let's all stick the boot in and end up like Germany where fucking RTL II reflects the mood of the nation.

 

I love the BBC. But it seems people have sacred cows. Is it right that presenters and other at the BBC earn hundereds of thousands a year? Well is it? No. And it is basically a state organ as its coverage of Gaza and for instance the miners strike and the fiancial crisis proves. Misinformation from the ministiry of information. If it is going to just spread lies for the state, let the state pay for it. They can shove their fucking community radio up their collective arses.

Edited July 15, 2010 by Park Life

[Tom 14011]

Down with Big Brother

 

Down with Big Brother

 

Down with Big Brother

 

Down with Big Brother

 

Down with Big Brother

 

Down with Big Brother

 

Down with Big Brother

[Renton 21231]

"Why do we pay for the BBC anyway?"

 

to avoid watching another version of ITV

 

Why watch telly anyway? Get rid.

 

 

Aye, because the BBC is just a television station.

 

And even if it was, ten minutes tuned into BBC FOUR of an evening would quickly put things into perspective compared with the utter dross served up by every other channel. I'm happy to pay my licence fee for that, never mind the radio, web and other benefits they provide. But hey, it's easy and fashionable to bash the Beeb, so let's all stick the boot in and end up like Germany where fucking RTL II reflects the mood of the nation.

 

I love the BBC. But it seems people have sacred cows. Is it right that presenters and other at the BBC earn hundereds of thousands a year? Well is it? No. And it is basically a state organ as its coverage of Gaza and for instance the miners strike and the fiancial crisis proves. Misinformation from the ministiry of information. If it is going to just spread lies for the state, let the state pay for it. They can shove their fucking community radio up their collective arses.

 

That made sense.

[Guest alex]

I'd be gutted to see the Beeb go although I'm not quite sure how they can justify a channel like BBC 3 in this day and age. There's loads of other channels peddling similar shite. And Meenzer's right, it's far from just a TV channel but it's fashionable to bash it. It's also in the interests of just about every other media outlet going to get the beeb drastically cut or made into a fully commercial outlet. And then it would be fucking shite.

[Meenzer 15371]

"Why do we pay for the BBC anyway?"

 

to avoid watching another version of ITV

 

Why watch telly anyway? Get rid.

 

 

Aye, because the BBC is just a television station.

 

And even if it was, ten minutes tuned into BBC FOUR of an evening would quickly put things into perspective compared with the utter dross served up by every other channel. I'm happy to pay my licence fee for that, never mind the radio, web and other benefits they provide. But hey, it's easy and fashionable to bash the Beeb, so let's all stick the boot in and end up like Germany where fucking RTL II reflects the mood of the nation.

 

I love the BBC. But it seems people have sacred cows. Is it right that presenters and other at the BBC earn hundereds of thousands a year? Well is it? No. And it is basically a state organ as its coverage of Gaza and for instance the miners strike and the fiancial crisis proves. Misinformation from the ministiry of information. If it is going to just spread lies for the state, let the state pay for it. They can shove their fucking community radio up their collective arses.

 

I just think it's funny how the BBC has to meet standards that are a thousand times more exacting than practically any other entity of its size, scope, relevance, financial clout, etc. Yes it's our money, but then so's tax, and if we applied the same principles of protest to how that's used then the Beeb would quickly seem like the small fry it really is.

[Guest alex]

"Why do we pay for the BBC anyway?"

 

to avoid watching another version of ITV

 

Why watch telly anyway? Get rid.

 

 

Aye, because the BBC is just a television station.

 

And even if it was, ten minutes tuned into BBC FOUR of an evening would quickly put things into perspective compared with the utter dross served up by every other channel. I'm happy to pay my licence fee for that, never mind the radio, web and other benefits they provide. But hey, it's easy and fashionable to bash the Beeb, so let's all stick the boot in and end up like Germany where fucking RTL II reflects the mood of the nation.

 

I love the BBC. But it seems people have sacred cows. Is it right that presenters and other at the BBC earn hundereds of thousands a year? Well is it? No. And it is basically a state organ as its coverage of Gaza and for instance the miners strike and the fiancial crisis proves. Misinformation from the ministiry of information. If it is going to just spread lies for the state, let the state pay for it. They can shove their fucking community radio up their collective arses.

V for Vendetta was on last night, wasn't it?

[Guest alex]

"Why do we pay for the BBC anyway?"

 

to avoid watching another version of ITV

 

Why watch telly anyway? Get rid.

 

 

Aye, because the BBC is just a television station.

 

And even if it was, ten minutes tuned into BBC FOUR of an evening would quickly put things into perspective compared with the utter dross served up by every other channel. I'm happy to pay my licence fee for that, never mind the radio, web and other benefits they provide. But hey, it's easy and fashionable to bash the Beeb, so let's all stick the boot in and end up like Germany where fucking RTL II reflects the mood of the nation.

 

I love the BBC. But it seems people have sacred cows. Is it right that presenters and other at the BBC earn hundereds of thousands a year? Well is it? No. And it is basically a state organ as its coverage of Gaza and for instance the miners strike and the fiancial crisis proves. Misinformation from the ministiry of information. If it is going to just spread lies for the state, let the state pay for it. They can shove their fucking community radio up their collective arses.

 

I just think it's funny how the BBC has to meet standards that are a thousand times more exacting than practically any other entity of its size, scope, relevance, financial clout, etc. Yes it's our money, but then so's tax, and if we applied the same principles of protest to how that's used then the Beeb would quickly seem like the small fry it really is.

It's a fucking terrible statement on the nation that we only apply those standards to something relatively unimportant like the BBC. Then again, there aren't many celebs working in the Treasury etc. so most people aren't interested.

[Park Life 71]

Down with Big Brother

 

Down with Big Brother

 

Down with Big Brother

 

Down with Big Brother

 

Down with Big Brother

 

Down with Big Brother

 

Down with Big Brother

 

[Renton 21231]

I'd be gutted to see the Beeb go although I'm not quite sure how they can justify a channel like BBC 3 in this day and age. There's loads of other channels peddling similar shite. And Meenzer's right, it's far from just a TV channel but it's fashionable to bash it. It's also in the interests of just about every other media outlet going to get the beeb drastically cut or made into a fully commercial outlet. And then it would be fucking shite.

 

Is it though? If the BBC was fully commercialised wouldn't it be a major competitor to Channel 4, ITV, and Sky? There's only a certain amount of revenue to be had from advertising, it'd be another mouth to feed. I've always thought Murdoch's attitude towards it was irrational and bitter.

 

I do fear for the BBC under this government. Parky calls it a Sacred Cow and that's about right as far as I am concerned. Without the BBC I'd pretty much not watch any TV or listen to the radio at all. Don't mnd scrapping BBC 3 though (but keep BBC 4).

[Park Life 71]

The war is against the banking cartels, when the BBC starts informing the layman about the hi jinks and fraud of the banking and financial sector and the daily rape of all across Eruope by the ruling elite, like it used to (It was a shining light in the thatcher era for criticising Govt policy) I would have no qualm about funding it. But now it has become a poodle of the state with hi execs getting paid hundereds of thousands it serves us THE PEOPLE no benefit. I really have no stomach left for twee farm fables or another Pinter retrospective. Fuck it.

Edited July 15, 2010 by Park Life

[Meenzer 15371]

BBC3 is shite, obviously, but it has to serve that audience if it's going to claim to be an all-purpose, licence fee-justifying institution in the digital age etc. Even when there were two channels you/I'd still have been uninterested in 80% of what they put out, so I suppose it's just an extension of that really.

[Guest alex]

I'd be gutted to see the Beeb go although I'm not quite sure how they can justify a channel like BBC 3 in this day and age. There's loads of other channels peddling similar shite. And Meenzer's right, it's far from just a TV channel but it's fashionable to bash it. It's also in the interests of just about every other media outlet going to get the beeb drastically cut or made into a fully commercial outlet. And then it would be fucking shite.

 

Is it though? If the BBC was fully commercialised wouldn't it be a major competitor to Channel 4, ITV, and Sky? There's only a certain amount of revenue to be had from advertising, it'd be another mouth to feed. I've always thought Murdoch's attitude towards it was irrational and bitter.

 

I do fear for the BBC under this government. Parky calls it a Sacred Cow and that's about right as far as I am concerned. Without the BBC I'd pretty much not watch any TV or listen to the radio at all. Don't mnd scrapping BBC 3 though (but keep BBC 4).

Well I think one of the major factors would be that in the beeb you have probably the best free website in the world and most media outlets would love to see that end.

[Park Life 71]

I'd be gutted to see the Beeb go although I'm not quite sure how they can justify a channel like BBC 3 in this day and age. There's loads of other channels peddling similar shite. And Meenzer's right, it's far from just a TV channel but it's fashionable to bash it. It's also in the interests of just about every other media outlet going to get the beeb drastically cut or made into a fully commercial outlet. And then it would be fucking shite.

 

Is it though? If the BBC was fully commercialised wouldn't it be a major competitor to Channel 4, ITV, and Sky? There's only a certain amount of revenue to be had from advertising, it'd be another mouth to feed. I've always thought Murdoch's attitude towards it was irrational and bitter.

 

I do fear for the BBC under this government. Parky calls it a Sacred Cow and that's about right as far as I am concerned. Without the BBC I'd pretty much not watch any TV or listen to the radio at all. Don't mnd scrapping BBC 3 though (but keep BBC 4).

Well I think one of the major factors would be that in the beeb you have probably the best free website in the world and most media outlets would love to see that end.

 

We shuld really be looking at the dovetailing of media empires and the ruling hegemony (big business) and legislation should be tailored to addressing corporate ownership of the mass media and the reality altering light it shines on the clueless. That is the real debate. That used to be the BBc's job a job it has completely failed in wiht upping the understanding of the masses...

[Matt 0]

Danny smashed for 6 again

 

Not really I just don't have time to pick through Matts point. Which really isn't a point, more of a rant based on the idea that the Tories have ignored all sound economic advise to put into place a nefarious plan to dismantle this countries public sector at the detriment of the country as a whole....which is of course as ridiculous as it sounds.

 

Like it or not a downgrade would have been a disaster because:

 

A. The countries exchange rate would have been smashed meaning we would have had to pay back much more on our EUR and USD denominated debt

B. The rate we borrow at would make interest cost a real burden on future spending

 

Who cares if you can get a bond out if you are paying a 1000+bp spread on it?

 

Of course the accumulated minds of Toontastic have got it right and the government working on the advice of some of the countries finest economists have it all wrong.

 

Clearly a conspiracy against the north *scousetastic*

 

 

Tories have not ignored sound economic advice, they have acted on one facet of it. You can't claim all the world's top economists say one thing because clearly there is massive division amongst economists themselves. There have been plenty of voices warning not to cut too deep too soon, but you have chosen to ignore the existence of these voices. I assume they received their qualifications after replying to an ad in the back of Razzle and therefore do not meet your standards. Only time will tell whether the course of action is the right one.

 

I don't argue that government was bloated, that those in power were as smarmy and arrogant as the horrible bunch under Major in 1992, that considerable savings can be made across the board and that the UK needs considerable deficit reduction. Labour would have had to accept a retrenchment of state boundaries as part of a natural shift in political and economic reality, just as Cameron had to paint himself as a 'moderate conservative'. I simply don't agree that we should be swinging the axe left right and centre so quickly. The government have decided to act while still in the honeymoon period because it will prove less politically damaging first and foremost. I don't agree with the severity of what they are doing but it is their right as the government to act in this way. However I feel they are being duplicitous and making cuts beyond the levels truly necessary in order to satiate the small state zeal of many party members under the guise of unavoidable budgetary repair. The govt misleading the country is nothing new (the last lot did plenty of it) but I don't think that's any excuse just to accept it at face value.

 

Going to AA would not end the nation, but it is a very serious event and we should be taking all reasonable measures to avoid it. However it should not be used as the ultimate trump card for every government intervention. Investors look at fundamentals as well as the label and will have priced the risks in accordgly already. However you must also recognise that economic growth prospects are as central to the ratings assigned to the UK as deficit repair. If we cut too far and growth is halted, we'll lose on both counts.

 

I wasn't aware that the UK had significant issue in anything other than sterling, but would love to see the composition.

 

And now onto a rant.

 

What annoys me is so much of the country now thinks its OK that we can just slashing at education. It's the one thing that I personally believe should not be messed with. It is more important than any other function of the state. Education is pivotal to economic growth. I reject that it must suffer as everyone else should. BSF was not perfect and it may have been laden with red tape (what large financings, state or private are straightforward?) but the process was improving and ultimately, it delivered new schools which can teach the right skills in a modern environment. This government has accepted that teaching kids in blocks of shoddy prefabs is OK. It's not. Nor is this a northern issue- BSF has already benefited many inner-city Labour heartlands. It is hitting Tory regions and has quite rightly provoked a response from MPs in that area. Now we are likely to see the effective privatisation of university education via an arms-length funding vehicle charging commercial rates. I'm not fussed that the Food Standards Agency has closed. I am more concerned that cameron has barely made a dint on Brown's sizable arseprint in the No 10 hotseat and already we're seeing education under fire and seemingly, a lot of people think that it is OK and hark back to 'their day' when their school was a bit ramshackle and it didn't do them any harm. Well if we want to teach 20-th century skills we'll have a 20th century economy.

Edited July 15, 2010 by Matt

[Meenzer 15371]

The war is against the banking cartels, when the BBC starts informing the layman about the hi jinks and fraud of the banking and financial sector and the daily rape of all across Eruope by the ruling elite, like it used to (It was a shining light in the thatcher era for criticising Govt policy) I would have no qualm about funding it. But now it has become a poodle of the state with hi execs getting paid hundereds of thousands it serves us THE PEOPLE no benefit. I really have no stomach left for twee farm fables or another Pinter retrospective. Fuck it.

 

Setting aside the ranting grandad parts of that post, I'd have to say that Peston, for example, has been right on the button about a lot of aspects of the financial crisis. And they've given him plenty of leeway to do so. But then I seem to recall the "funding" issue being something of a red herring when it comes to Hamburg-based people anyway.

 

As for the "evil empire" shebang, if the BBC took an aggressively and virulently anti-Murdoch stance, they'd be destroyed within months.

[spongebob toonpants 3925]

Aye. Relocate them to New Cross, they'll actually raise the tone around here.

 

 

how much are rental values in london Meenz?

 

How long is a piece of string? It varies from street to street here, never mind neighbourhood to neighbourhood or borough to borough...

 

Thats quite a range

[Happy Face 29]

The war is against the banking cartels, when the BBC starts informing the layman about the hi jinks and fraud of the banking and financial sector and the daily rape of all across Eruope by the ruling elite, like it used to (It was a shining light in the thatcher era for criticising Govt policy) I would have no qualm about funding it. But now it has become a poodle of the state with hi execs getting paid hundereds of thousands it serves us THE PEOPLE no benefit. I really have no stomach left for twee farm fables or another Pinter retrospective. Fuck it.

 

What you on about?

 

A single BBC reporter has taken a load of the blame for the entire financial collapse for his reporting on the shit-storm that was coming.

[Park Life 71]

The war is against the banking cartels, when the BBC starts informing the layman about the hi jinks and fraud of the banking and financial sector and the daily rape of all across Eruope by the ruling elite, like it used to (It was a shining light in the thatcher era for criticising Govt policy) I would have no qualm about funding it. But now it has become a poodle of the state with hi execs getting paid hundereds of thousands it serves us THE PEOPLE no benefit. I really have no stomach left for twee farm fables or another Pinter retrospective. Fuck it.

 

Setting aside the ranting grandad parts of that post, I'd have to say that Peston, for example, has been right on the button about a lot of aspects of the financial crisis. And they've given him plenty of leeway to do so. But then I seem to recall the "funding" issue being something of a red herring when it comes to Hamburg-based people anyway.

 

As for the "evil empire" shebang, if the BBC took an aggressively and virulently anti-Murdoch stance, they'd be destroyed within months.

 

So be it.

 

Not sure what your point is...Igonore the evil empire and it will go away?

[Guest Gordon McKeag]

Danny smashed for 6 again

 

Not really I just don't have time to pick through Matts point. Which really isn't a point, more of a rant based on the idea that the Tories have ignored all sound economic advise to put into place a nefarious plan to dismantle this countries public sector at the detriment of the country as a whole....which is of course as ridiculous as it sounds.

 

Like it or not a downgrade would have been a disaster because:

 

A. The countries exchange rate would have been smashed meaning we would have had to pay back much more on our EUR and USD denominated debt

B. The rate we borrow at would make interest cost a real burden on future spending

 

Who cares if you can get a bond out if you are paying a 1000+bp spread on it?

 

Of course the accumulated minds of Toontastic have got it right and the government working on the advice of some of the countries finest economists have it all wrong.

 

Clearly a conspiracy against the north *scousetastic*

 

 

Tories have not ignored sound economic advice, they have acted on one facet of it. You can't claim all the world's top economists say one thing because clearly there is massive division amongst economists themselves. There have been plenty of voices warning not to cut too deep too soon, but you have chosen to ignore the existence of these voices. I assume they received their qualifications after replying to an ad in the back of Razzle and therefore do not meet your standards. Only time will tell whether the course of action is the right one.

 

I don't argue that government was bloated, that those in power were as smarmy and arrogant as the horrible bunch under Major in 1992, that considerable savings can be made across the board and that the UK needs considerable deficit reduction. Labour would have had to accept a retrenchment of state boundaries as part of a natural shift in political and economic reality, just as Cameron had to paint himself as a 'moderate conservative'. I simply don't agree that we should be swinging the axe left right and centre so quickly. The government have decided to act while still in the honeymoon period because it will prove less politically damaging first and foremost. I don't agree with the severity of what they are doing but it is their right as the government to act in this way. However I feel they are being duplicitous and making cuts beyond the levels truly necessary in order to satiate the small state zeal of many party members under the guise of unavoidable budgetary repair. The govt misleading the country is nothing new (the last lot did plenty of it) but I don't think that's any excuse just to accept it at face value.

 

Going to AA would not end the nation, but it is a very serious event and we should be taking all reasonable measures to avoid it. However it should not be used as the ultimate trump card for every government intervention. Investors look at fundamentals as well as the label and will have priced the risks in accordgly already. However you must also recognise that economic growth prospects are as central to the ratings assigned to the UK as deficit repair. If we cut too far and growth is halted, we'll lose on both counts.

 

I wasn't aware that the UK had significant issue in anything other than sterling, but would love to see the composition.

 

And now onto a rant.

 

What annoys me is so much of the country now thinks its OK that we can just slashing at education. It's the one thing that I personally believe should not be messed with. It is more important than any other function of the state. Education is pivotal to economic growth. I reject that it must suffer as everyone else should. BSF was not perfect and it may have been laden with red tape (what large financings, state or private are straightforward?) but the process was improving and ultimately, it delivered new schools which can teach the right skills in a modern environment. This government has accepted that teaching kids in blocks of shoddy prefabs is OK. It's not. Nor is this a northern issue- BSF has already benefited many inner-city Labour heartlands. It is hitting Tory regions and has quite rightly provoked a response from MPs in that area. Now we are likely to see the effective privatisation of university education via an arms-length funding vehicle charging commercial rates. I'm not fussed that the Food Standards Agency has closed. I am more concerned that cameron has barely made a dint on Brown's sizable arseprint in the No 10 hotseat and already we're seeing education under fire and seemingly, a lot of people think that it is OK and hark back to 'their day' when their school was a bit ramshackle and it didn't do them any harm. Well if we want to teach 20-th century skills we'll have a 20th century economy.

BSF and the PFI are part of the reason this country will be debt laden for most of our lives, cleared in 2015 my cock. Idiots don't realise, they'll do a £575m PFI job in Scotland, there's one at the Southern General in Glasgow at the minute, the main contractor Multiplex (Aussie wanks) will put the funds up, and we as a nation will end up paying 5 times (or more) the initial £575m. People don't realise this, labour aren't they good investing in our services, yes at the cost of almost bankrupting the country. Fucking idiots.

[Park Life 71]

The war is against the banking cartels, when the BBC starts informing the layman about the hi jinks and fraud of the banking and financial sector and the daily rape of all across Eruope by the ruling elite, like it used to (It was a shining light in the thatcher era for criticising Govt policy) I would have no qualm about funding it. But now it has become a poodle of the state with hi execs getting paid hundereds of thousands it serves us THE PEOPLE no benefit. I really have no stomach left for twee farm fables or another Pinter retrospective. Fuck it.

 

What you on about?

 

A single BBC reporter has taken a load of the blame for the entire financial collapse for his reporting on the shit-storm that was coming.

 

The finacial press were talking about the bubble crash back in 2006. Keep up.

[Guest alex]

The BBC's the least of our worries.

[Park Life 71]

Danny smashed for 6 again

 

Not really I just don't have time to pick through Matts point. Which really isn't a point, more of a rant based on the idea that the Tories have ignored all sound economic advise to put into place a nefarious plan to dismantle this countries public sector at the detriment of the country as a whole....which is of course as ridiculous as it sounds.

 

Like it or not a downgrade would have been a disaster because:

 

A. The countries exchange rate would have been smashed meaning we would have had to pay back much more on our EUR and USD denominated debt

B. The rate we borrow at would make interest cost a real burden on future spending

 

Who cares if you can get a bond out if you are paying a 1000+bp spread on it?

 

Of course the accumulated minds of Toontastic have got it right and the government working on the advice of some of the countries finest economists have it all wrong.

 

Clearly a conspiracy against the north *scousetastic*

 

 

Tories have not ignored sound economic advice, they have acted on one facet of it. You can't claim all the world's top economists say one thing because clearly there is massive division amongst economists themselves. There have been plenty of voices warning not to cut too deep too soon, but you have chosen to ignore the existence of these voices. I assume they received their qualifications after replying to an ad in the back of Razzle and therefore do not meet your standards. Only time will tell whether the course of action is the right one.

 

I don't argue that government was bloated, that those in power were as smarmy and arrogant as the horrible bunch under Major in 1992, that considerable savings can be made across the board and that the UK needs considerable deficit reduction. Labour would have had to accept a retrenchment of state boundaries as part of a natural shift in political and economic reality, just as Cameron had to paint himself as a 'moderate conservative'. I simply don't agree that we should be swinging the axe left right and centre so quickly. The government have decided to act while still in the honeymoon period because it will prove less politically damaging first and foremost. I don't agree with the severity of what they are doing but it is their right as the government to act in this way. However I feel they are being duplicitous and making cuts beyond the levels truly necessary in order to satiate the small state zeal of many party members under the guise of unavoidable budgetary repair. The govt misleading the country is nothing new (the last lot did plenty of it) but I don't think that's any excuse just to accept it at face value.

 

Going to AA would not end the nation, but it is a very serious event and we should be taking all reasonable measures to avoid it. However it should not be used as the ultimate trump card for every government intervention. Investors look at fundamentals as well as the label and will have priced the risks in accordgly already. However you must also recognise that economic growth prospects are as central to the ratings assigned to the UK as deficit repair. If we cut too far and growth is halted, we'll lose on both counts.

 

I wasn't aware that the UK had significant issue in anything other than sterling, but would love to see the composition.

 

And now onto a rant.

 

What annoys me is so much of the country now thinks its OK that we can just slashing at education. It's the one thing that I personally believe should not be messed with. It is more important than any other function of the state. Education is pivotal to economic growth. I reject that it must suffer as everyone else should. BSF was not perfect and it may have been laden with red tape (what large financings, state or private are straightforward?) but the process was improving and ultimately, it delivered new schools which can teach the right skills in a modern environment. This government has accepted that teaching kids in blocks of shoddy prefabs is OK. It's not. Nor is this a northern issue- BSF has already benefited many inner-city Labour heartlands. It is hitting Tory regions and has quite rightly provoked a response from MPs in that area. Now we are likely to see the effective privatisation of university education via an arms-length funding vehicle charging commercial rates. I'm not fussed that the Food Standards Agency has closed. I am more concerned that cameron has barely made a dint on Brown's sizable arseprint in the No 10 hotseat and already we're seeing education under fire and seemingly, a lot of people think that it is OK and hark back to 'their day' when their school was a bit ramshackle and it didn't do them any harm. Well if we want to teach 20-th century skills we'll have a 20th century economy.

BSF and the PFI are part of the reason this country will be debt laden for most of our lives, cleared in 2015 my cock. Idiots don't realise, they'll do a £575m PFI job in Scotland, there's one at the Southern General in Glasgow at the minute, the main contractor Multiplex (Aussie wanks) will put the funds up, and we as a nation will end up paying 5 times (or more) the initial £575m. People don't realise this, labour aren't they good investing in our services, yes at the cost of almost bankrupting the country. Fucking idiots.

 

...but having secured directorships when they leave the House.