Christmas Tree 4679 Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 Vote in secret to block the person from running they know would win Yay democracy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44265 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 It isn't Iraq ffs. When did the threat of intimidation take over British politics exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13768 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 What a pack of cunts. Just apply that to whatever side you want at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5164 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I mean, it's as if Labour don't want anyone to vote for them ever again. I didn't think it was possible to be more disillusioned with politics and 'democracy' (not that anything going on is democratic, except that accursed referendum) and yet, Labour always find a way to make you feel worse. They're like the Newcastle United of politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 I mean, it's as if Labour don't want anyone to vote for them ever again. I didn't think it was possible to be more disillusioned with politics and 'democracy' (not that anything going on is democratic, except that accursed referendum) and yet, Labour always find a way to make you feel worse. They're like the Newcastle United of politics. Without the cultured, slightly overweight, charismatic Spaniard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5164 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Well of course - that comment would have been much more relevant pre-Rafa. But I imagine we all know what I mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42004 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Cullercoats? You cheeky bastard. Whitleycoatsmouth, all the same really, infested with shitehawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15371 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Corbyn's on the ballot. So Corbyn will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4679 Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 Corbyn on ballot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30221 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Ballot on Corbyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4679 Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 Christmas comes early for Theresa May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4365 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 So they only allowed the lawyer who said it wasn't automatic to speak to the meeting and still lost. Accusing Corbyn of incompetence seems a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4679 Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 I think that's the end of the Labour Party now. Months of a leadership campaign to return to where we were two weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Christmas comes early for Theresa May the Tories are a party whose only internal struggle is how far to the right they go. Complete agreement on dismantling the social safety nets we have and keeping taxes low for the non-poor. Only question is whether they get to kill foxes, discriminate against gays or "send the buggers back" while they do that. The labour crisis is that there aren't shared core principles any longer. May should be rubbing her hands whoever won, because the warring factions will continue to fight for the party until there's a split either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 What is the point of the Lib Dems exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4679 Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 the Tories are a party whose only internal struggle is how far to the right they go. Complete agreement on dismantling the social safety nets we have and keeping taxes low for the non-poor. Only question is whether they get to kill foxes, discriminate against gays or "send the buggers back" while they do that. The labour crisis is that there aren't shared core principles any longer. May should be rubbing her hands whoever won, because the warring factions will continue to fight for the party until there's a split either way. Rubbish. Party's win from the centre. Had the other Milliband won then Labour would be in power now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4365 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Have you heard of that we'll known centrist Thatcher CT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5164 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Parties win from the centre with FPTP - we're increasingly in need of PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5164 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Have you heard of that we'll known centrist Thatcher CT? Fair fucking point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4679 Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 Have you heard of that we'll known centrist Thatcher CT? That's nearly 40 years ago man in a whole different country. Honestly, if you think a socialist leader (whose MP's don't even want him) has ever got a chance of getting elected, then good look to you. Tonight the Labour Party has ceased to be. It is a dead parrot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4679 Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 Parties win from the centre with FPTP - we're increasingly in need of PR. And that's never coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5164 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 The Labour Party ceased to be after the referendum - it's no more dead now than it was two weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5164 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 And that's never coming. It might if Labour split - imagine if the Tories were fighting off a union of all of these small left wing parties. PR would be inevitable as the Tories would have total control otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Rubbish. Party's win from the centre. Had the other Milliband won then Labour would be in power now. I'm agreeing with what you've been saying all week man. The Tories don't all unite behind a candidate because they're willing to put aside fundamental differences to get into power at any cost. They have shared principles by and large. Those priniciples are to the right of centre. The only issue that has led to splits within the Conservative party for decades have revolved around European membership. Isolationists have won the exit and europhiles have a remainer PM. All happy. Traditional labour found Blair a bitter enough pill to swallow but accepted it when it won elections, but the complete capitulation on what caused the economic crisis in 2008 means that the lie is cast in stone for a long time to come that a labour government couldn't manage the books, even as it embraced the centre. Takes a couple of generations for betrayals like that to be forgiven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4679 Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 The Labour Party ceased to be after the referendum - it's no more dead now than it was two weeks ago. It had a chance of re-building once rid of Corbyn and momentum. Now it's just handed Theresa May a guaranteed 2nd term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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