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Tell you what I have difficulty in forgiving Blair for, his insistence it was STIll the right thing to have done. True enough, we can never know for sure what a parallel world would be like if Hussein had not been overthrown, but it's difficult to imagine the ME could have been in a worse mess than it is now. And Cook demonstrated this didn't require hindsight. Yet to this day Blair just can't admit he made a terrible mistake.

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Tell you what I have difficulty in forgiving Blair for, his insistence it was STIll the right thing to have done. True enough, we can never know for sure what a parallel world would be like if Hussein had not been overthrown, but it's difficult to imagine the ME could have been in a worse mess than it is now. And Cook demonstrated this didn't require hindsight. Yet to this day Blair just can't admit he made a terrible mistake.

 

The ME may be a mess but imagine how bad things would've gotten had Tony Blair not spent eight years as a peace envoy.

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Thanks for putting that up, remember it well. A link to Charlie Kennedys speech opposing the war in it too. The fact we had two such eloquent, statesman like individuals at the forefront of Westminster not much more than a decade ago seems a long way from the present frontline of bigots, oppurtunists,no hopers and dreamers. Am sure there was plenty back then too tbh, but ffs that seems like a different century.

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Thanks for putting that up, remember it well. A link to Charlie Kennedys speech opposing the war in it too. The fact we had two such eloquent, statesman like individuals at the forefront of Westminster not much more than a decade ago seems a long way from the present frontline of bigots, oppurtunists,no hopers and dreamers. Am sure there was plenty back then too tbh, but ffs that seems like a different century.

Agreed, I think. New labour was more than just Blair, and the lib dems had plenty of decent politicians. The conservatives were still cunts mind.

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The ME may be a mess but imagine how bad things would've gotten had Tony Blair not spent eight years as a peace envoy.

Him in that role btw. How insulting can you get?

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He's all ower it... :lol:

 

http://www.haaretz.com/news/palestinian-cell-phone-company-launches-west-bank-network-1.4996

 

Tony Blair has developed a close personal friendship with one of the richest – and most controversial – women in Israel. Ofra Strauss, 51, who divorced her second husband last year, is the head of a £1.3billion food company whose high prices triggered the biggest social protests in Israel’s history.

She has been seen so often in Mr Blair’s company that the Israeli press has even speculated openly that they are having an affair."

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2041507/Revealed-Tony-Blair-s-intriguing-friendship-richest-divorcees-Israel--Cherie-warned-sexy-conspiracy.html

 

“Israel wants an agreement that intensifies the split between Gaza and the West Bank, and that is what Tony Blair is doing,” Ms Ashrawi told The Independent. “Maintaining and intensifying the split would spell the end of a unified, viable Palestinian state.”

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/tony-blair-mediating-planned-truce-between-hamas-and-israel-10461712.html

 

This geezer really is taking the piss.

 

 

"Blair requires as many as 12 police protection officers following his role as prime minister and his advocacy of the invasion of Iraq in 2003, a Daily Telegraph investigation published on Friday claims.

Documents seen by the Telegraph allegedly show that Blair sometimes visits as many as five countries a week, at a potential cost of between £14,000 and £16,000 to the public purse. The paper reports that each protection officer was likely to be earning at least £56,000, but could earn more than £70,000 given the overtime they accumulate on foreign trips.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/jun/12/tony-blair-police-protection-costs-taxpayers-millions-report-claims

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Agreed, I think. New labour was more than just Blair, and the lib dems had plenty of decent politicians. The conservatives were still cunts mind.

I think Blairs first cabinet had bags of talent. Their mandate was enormous and they could spray money around with abandon. I do know what you mean that they properly tried to make people's lives better. I worked on an extension to a cottage hostpital in the East Devon town of Honiton. Place a bit like Alnwick. The local health board had this done for a renal unit, so local folk in need of dyalisis wouldn't need to go 30 miles to either Exeter or Dorchester. We were there at the opening, I met the folk from the health board, local Labour Party bods and the patients who to a man/woman said this would make their lives immeasurably better. I do think though the country turned against them once the likes of Mandelson ended up in and out of the cabinet, Campbell being so powerful but unelected, and of course the decision on the war.

 

It's gone now though. We have to start doing things completely differently iyam.

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Can't work out what either of you are saying. :razz:

Would not bang with yours / would not touch with a ten foot barge pole

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Apparently her "major speech on the economy" this morning was basically just a list of slogans about banishing pessimists and believing in Britain.

 

Expect CT to be suckered in.

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