Politics

[Meenzer 16310]

So the exit poll in Germany looks to be broadly in line with the opinion polls. It says a lot that it's something of a relief that the AfD have "only" ended up with about 20%, particularly since the CDU guy who'll be the new Chancellor is very fond of borrowing far-right tropes anyway, but it could have been rather worse.

[Toonpack 11163]

29 minutes ago, Meenzer said:

So the exit poll in Germany looks to be broadly in line with the opinion polls. It says a lot that it's something of a relief that the AfD have "only" ended up with about 20%, particularly since the CDU guy who'll be the new Chancellor is very fond of borrowing far-right tropes anyway, but it could have been rather worse.

AfD evidently polling at lower end of expectations, seems Germany's gone Wehrmacht instead of full on SS

[Rayvin 5891]

At least AfD didn't win.

 

Immigration remains the spectre across all of Europe and as said by many of us a few times now, is an argument we've lost. The problem is though, Labour are actually doing more about it than the Tories were. Biden had higher numbers than Trump... I wonder if that's a pattern in general. That the "left" does far more on this than people give them credit for. If it is, then the single threatening issue is social media. It's not 'informing people', it's radicalising them based on lies. Which again, we all know. No one here isn't aware of that. But what the fuck are we meant to do about it - we can't ban social media as the free speech police will be out in force... so the only option at all, is to start being better at it than the right are. I see no other way personally. I think huge resources should be poured into this tbh.

[Isegrim 10281]

25 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

At least AfD didn't win.

That was never going to happen. 1 in 5 in total (1 in 3 in Eastern Germany) voting for a party that is very far right is pretty worrying though. But so far no other party will form a coalition with them meaning they won’t get into power unless they win an outright majority. They are still able to poison the political discourse.

 

It remains to be seen if there is the possibility of a stable coalition. Only the former two major parties CDU and SPD will probably be able to do it. But it will depend on all minor parties not getting enough votes to enter the parliament (more than 5 percent). Otherwise three parties will be needed to form a government. That wouldn’t be a good prospect considering the different agendas.