Christmas Tree 4725 Posted October 30 Author Share Posted October 30 We are in this mess because western democracies are just one big Ponzi scheme. There will never be enough money to keep up with expectations / needs which is why we are so heavily in debt. Every government tries to move the deck chairs on the titanic a bit, but that’s it. We are doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44796 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 We specifically are in this mess because of the enormous fucking hole that Brexit has kicked in our economy. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44796 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Pretty much this. Whatever you think about it, this is not an attempt at more managed decline. They're trying to do something. Don't know if it'll work, but they're giving it a go. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3992 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Pretty much this. Whatever you think about it, this is not an attempt at more managed decline. They're trying to do something. Don't know if it'll work, but they're giving it a go. You talking about Liz Truss? Edited October 30 by spongebob toonpants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44796 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 I thought she was George Osborne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30535 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 14 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: The increase in employer national insurance contributions is bad news for a lot of ordinary businesses. Could lead to lots of job losses It depends what you class as an ordinary business. Small businesses like my own get £5000 to offset against National Insurance contributions and to protect businesses like mine the government have increased this to £10,500 to offset the additional contributions. So the increase in NIC is only going to really affect medium and large businesses who are better placed to absorb it. And we're talking about an increase of 1.2% here. If your business can't afford that then you're probably not going to survive anyway. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44796 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 They've just played a clip at the end of the latest Quiet Riot podcast of Beth Rigby questioning Reeves. Really annoyed voice on her. "I spoke to Wes Streeting before the election and put it to him that the NHS would need additional funding, and his response was that more funding was not the answer to save the NHS. You've just announced £22.6bn of extra funding for day to day healthcare for the NHS. You just have not been straight with the British public." What do you even say to that? You're getting pulled up for trying to improve the NHS now. These journalists are fucking pathetic. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17239 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 (edited) Labour have lied by omission all over the shop. Mostly to the middle classes. Fake outrage from grown adults about politicians stitching them up is fuckin nauseating though. I think the NHS is going to have to have mostly wiped out waiting lists or shortened them to 3/4 months for hips and knees etc for things to sink in with these types if they want to get re-elected though. I think Labour were on a hiding to nothing from the word go. they were holed beneath the waterline by the press lying in wait for them almost from the morning after the election. WFA didn’t help, but TBF as others have said I’m quietly enthused by this budget. They’ve taxed the better off not the most vulnerable. Not allowed by the Tory press but normal social democracy in the real world. My heart bleeds for the likes of these fuckers. Not … Edited October 31 by PaddockLad 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44796 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 Fuck the Macraes. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21561 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 (edited) 12 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Labour have lied by omission all over the shop. Mostly to the middle classes. Fake outrage from grown adults about politicians stitching them up is fuckin nauseating though. I think the NHS is going to have to have mostly wiped out waiting lists or shortened them to 3/4 months for hips and knees etc for things to sink in with these types if they want to get re-elected though. I think Labour were on a hiding to nothing from the word go. they were holed beneath the waterline by the press lying in wait for them almost from the morning after the election. WFA didn’t help, but TBF as others have said I’m quietly enthused by this budget. They’ve taxed the better off not the most vulnerable. Not allowed by the Tory press but normal social democracy in the real world. My heart bleeds for the likes of these fuckers. Not … Agreed although I think your over pessimistic on Labour's re-election chances. Who are going to beat Labour at the polls? Badenoch, Farage? Really? Edited October 31 by Renton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33100 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 18 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Labour have lied by omission all over the shop. Mostly to the middle classes. Fake outrage from grown adults about politicians stitching them up is fuckin nauseating though. I think the NHS is going to have to have mostly wiped out waiting lists or shortened them to 3/4 months for hips and knees etc for things to sink in with these types if they want to get re-elected though. I think Labour were on a hiding to nothing from the word go. they were holed beneath the waterline by the press lying in wait for them almost from the morning after the election. WFA didn’t help, but TBF as others have said I’m quietly enthused by this budget. They’ve taxed the better off not the most vulnerable. Not allowed by the Tory press but normal social democracy in the real world. My heart bleeds for the likes of these fuckers. Not … Well that's one boat that's been stopped so there's a little consolation for them. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35056 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 19 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Labour have lied by omission all over the shop. Mostly to the middle classes. Fake outrage from grown adults about politicians stitching them up is fuckin nauseating though. I think the NHS is going to have to have mostly wiped out waiting lists or shortened them to 3/4 months for hips and knees etc for things to sink in with these types if they want to get re-elected though. I think Labour were on a hiding to nothing from the word go. they were holed beneath the waterline by the press lying in wait for them almost from the morning after the election. WFA didn’t help, but TBF as others have said I’m quietly enthused by this budget. They’ve taxed the better off not the most vulnerable. Not allowed by the Tory press but normal social democracy in the real world. My heart bleeds for the likes of these fuckers. Not … It’s not that long ago that would have been satirical 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44796 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 The fucking ludicrous suggestion that they've had to return to work to make ends meet. 60 BTL properties. FUCKING SIXTY. To "supplement" their pension. "Oh just a little extra to keep the wolves from the door. It means we can have our 3 bar fire on an extra half an hour when the nights are at their coldest." Jokers. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35056 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 It’s a real shame they look like they won’t get the chance to meet some Somalian pirates 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21561 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 (edited) Also the notion that the baby boomer generation has been "hung out to dry". Never has there been a more privelged and entitled generation than these cunts. I hope their boat sinks without trace. Edited October 31 by Renton 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21561 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 A bit childish, no, very childish. But anyway. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 9695 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: They've just played a clip at the end of the latest Quiet Riot podcast of Beth Rigby questioning Reeves. Really annoyed voice on her. "I spoke to Wes Streeting before the election and put it to him that the NHS would need additional funding, and his response was that more funding was not the answer to save the NHS. You've just announced £22.6bn of extra funding for day to day healthcare for the NHS. You just have not been straight with the British public." What do you even say to that? You're getting pulled up for trying to improve the NHS now. These journalists are fucking pathetic. "You said you weren't going to invest in the NHS and here you are, the lying fucking bitch that you are, investing in the NHS. Where do you get off?" The only appropriate response is: "Are you completely mental?" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 9695 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 1 minute ago, Renton said: A bit childish, no, very childish. But anyway. or Both valid. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35056 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 26 minutes ago, Renton said: Also the notion that the baby boomer generation has been "hung out to dry". Never has there been a more privelged and entitled generation than these cunts. I hope their boat sinks without trace. You know what’s so weird and tragic about them? They should be fucking delighted with how life has panned out for them. Yet loads of them spend their lives raging about shit that barely impacts them and punching down. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35056 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 24 minutes ago, Renton said: A bit childish, no, very childish. But anyway. Reminds me of that video the Tories put out re: the winter fuel allowance. Where it was sone bloke in a posh house complaining in his kitchen but neither himself or the people making the film having the sense to realise he probably shouldn’t be wearing a gold Rolex 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44796 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 The wife's parents sometimes come round and I get the "don't talk to me about high interest rates, back in the 80s they were 15%!" etc. I just feel like screaming "YOU BOUGHT A HOUSE FOR EIGHT THOUSAND POUNDS! PROBABLY EVEN LESS! JUST FUCK OFF!" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44796 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 The MIL was asking me about inheritance tax rules last time they were here. I didn't ask why, cos I know it's because they've had the frighteners put on them by the Daily Mail, even though inheritance tax rules need not even remotely concern them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21561 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 1 minute ago, Gemmill said: The wife's parents sometimes come round and I get the "don't talk to me about high interest rates, back in the 80s they were 15%!" etc. I just feel like screaming "YOU BOUGHT A HOUSE FOR EIGHT THOUSAND POUNDS! PROBABLY EVEN LESS! JUST FUCK OFF!" Yep, and high inflation quickly decreases the relative payments on your house and at the same time house values multiplied massively. The only relevant metric is House value to income ratio, and in better areas that completely screws millenials and gen Zers. I'm kind of on the cusp of this, but I really appreciate its been easier for me than people 10, 20, or 30 years younger. I hope I never become like a boomer cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44796 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 2 minutes ago, Renton said: Yep, and high inflation quickly decreases the relative payments on your house and at the same time house values multiplied massively. The only relevant metric is House value to income ratio, and in better areas that completely screws millenials and gen Zers. I'm kind of on the cusp of this, but I really appreciate its been easier for me than people 10, 20, or 30 years younger. I hope I never become like a boomer cunt. I fucked up a little bit by going to live in America, and so not buying until my late 20s. Missed out on a period of fairly chunky little period of house price inflation, if my mates' experiences is anything to go by. But do I get an article in the Telegraph?! Do I FUCK. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4376 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 14 minutes ago, Alex said: You know what’s so weird and tragic about them? They should be fucking delighted with how life has panned out for them. Yet loads of them spend their lives raging about shit that barely impacts them and punching down. I've always wanted to ask obviously well off people who read the mail what is wrong with their lives that they need to hate so much. Obviously I never reflect on my views of tories, royalty, LFC and mackems. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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