Tdansmith 3259 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Return of the sausages 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4118 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdansmith 3259 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 13 hours ago, spongebob toonpants said: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 45982 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Some well needed balance and common sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35565 Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Some well needed balance and common sense. Nicely sums up pretty much everything that’s wrong with the media in relation to politics in this country. I do think Labour have made a few PR gaffes and have failed to communicate the reasons behind their decision making on a few occasions. But they’re inexperienced and look what they’re going up against 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11536 Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22129 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 20 hours ago, RobinRobin said: 🙂 shame Ed was never brave enough to show he had a personality when he was leader. he's been class since he stepped down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35565 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 To be fair to him, he was/is a fairly moderate social democrat who was eviscerated for the way he ate a bacon sandwich and was portrayed by most of the media as being just to the left of Leon Trotsky. Being yourself is probably difficult against that backdrop and he inherited the leadership at bad time too 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr Gloom 22129 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 4 hours ago, Alex said: To be fair to him, he was/is a fairly moderate social democrat who was eviscerated for the way he ate a bacon sandwich and was portrayed by most of the media as being just to the left of Leon Trotsky. Being yourself is probably difficult against that backdrop and he inherited the leadership at bad time too agree but I wonder if he’d done better if he’d just been himself. He’s a likeable bloke. Voters like that in a leader. Shame it was coached out of him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21967 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: agree but I wonder if he’d done better if he’d just been himself. He’s a likeable bloke. Voters like that in a leader. Shame it was coached out of him Think that's naive for reasons Alex has already said. Also, he kind of did knife his brother in the back which contradicts Mr Nice guy somewhat and was quite the sliding doors moment imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22129 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, Renton said: Think that's naive for reasons Alex has already said. Also, he kind of did knife his brother in the back which contradicts Mr Nice guy somewhat and was quite the sliding doors moment imo. it's naive to be likeable? feels like it could be a winning strategy instead of having you're entire personality coached out of you. of course the media were out to get him with the bacon sandwich nonsense but unlike a lot of politicians, ed has come across as a warm and funny bloke since stepping down as leader. and if you're lucky enough to blessed with a personality, why not show it? i think the public see through bland, overly-coached politicians and would have warmed to ed more if he'd just been himself. Edited September 27 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21967 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 5 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: it's naive to be likeable? Naive to think the media would ever let him be shown as likable. He was likable mind, I met him a couple of times before he betrayed his brother. Never revealed any ambitions to be leader just two years prior to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21967 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 BadEnoch says yesterday that statutory maternity pay is paid by tax payers and has "gone too far". She then rows back on it, claiming the interviewer made her say it. Nicky Campbell on R5 accepts this version of reality. Pure gaslighting. I really hope she gets the gig as she will say something disastrous every week. She is usueless with journalists, who she obviously despises. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 I get the point being made, but the suggestion he betrayed / knife his brother in the back is a bit much. He was proposed and seconded by sitting Labour MPs and was democratically elected as leader by the party membership. IIRC the trade unions were massively in support of Ed which probably was the difference. I was surprised David didn't get it, but it was always going to be something of a busted flush - the new leader of a party who have just come out of over a decade of government is likely to be transitional. Foot & Hague were the same and the new Tory leader will likely be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21967 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 24 minutes ago, Craig said: I get the point being made, but the suggestion he betrayed / knife his brother in the back is a bit much. He was proposed and seconded by sitting Labour MPs and was democratically elected as leader by the party membership. IIRC the trade unions were massively in support of Ed which probably was the difference. I was surprised David didn't get it, but it was always going to be something of a busted flush - the new leader of a party who have just come out of over a decade of government is likely to be transitional. Foot & Hague were the same and the new Tory leader will likely be the same. I think it caused their family a lot of persona problems. I'm not accepting the Hague or Foot similarities either. Both of these were fighting opposition majorities, a huge majority in the case of Hague. Foot was also clearly unelectable. Miliband was fighting a minority government in coalition. I think his brother would have won it as he was just a better more polished politician. But Ed blew it and ultimately paved the way for Corbyn, Brexit, Johnson, and Truss etc. Of course I'm not putting all the blame on him for this sequence of events and I personally like him, but that decsion to compete with his brother was a ruinous sliding door moment in the history of this country imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21967 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 Holy shit these candidates really are batshit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 45982 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 Nice hoodie mate. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31190 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 10344 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 11 minutes ago, ewerk said: Aye, down to his political views and absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he's proven himself to be less than useless at quite literally everything. Probably best we don't hire teachers that are thicker than whale spunk to educate our kids tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31190 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 Aye, it says something about the people of Stoke that they saw fit to elect a man to represent them and make our laws who can’t even get a job as a teacher in an industry crying out for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33802 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 (edited) It might be stating the obvious but how can you enforce good, respectful behaviour from pupils when a quick Google would give you all the evidence you need that he's incapable of that himself? Edited September 30 by Howmanheyman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31190 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 After the election he said that he didn’t want to return to teaching and wanted to help rebuild the Tories i.e. a cushy number in party HQ and even they don’t want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 10344 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 Gullis: No one will give me a job teaching because of my political views. Head teacher: We won’t employ you because you keep locking brown children in dog crates, and you misspelled Jonathan Gullis on your CV. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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