Renton 21614 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 8 minutes ago, NJS said: If they bribe the Reform people to withdraw as they did with ukip they'll still get 30% imo. Don't think that will happen this time. Reform know the game is currently up for the tories now. I think the MO of Reform now is to destroy the conservative party, bank on the country being an utter mess which Labour can't repair quickly enough, and arise as a phoenix hard right option in the next GE, possibly merge with them then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 36 minutes ago, NJS said: If they bribe the Reform people to withdraw as they did with ukip they'll still get 30% imo. Only just. Although I’m not sure what reform get out of that. It was a very different set of circumstances last time. With the Tories promising to ‘get Brexit done’ which is what ukip wanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 This SNP prick, whoever he is. He bemoans we should be talking about Gaza, not party politics. I mean, labour fucking well literally got a ceasefire bill in yesterday didn't they against a tory opposition who bottled it? Why not shut up and support it instead of whinging on about ancient parliamentary custom? Then compains the the Lib Dems didn't get their ammendment selected. So what, they're a smaller party than Labour aren't they, and there's limited time? Also the SNP claimed Hoyle was threatened and bullied by Labour (without any evidence that I can see, incidentally) and then - he and his party remorselessly try to bully Hoyle into resignation. I can't see anybody being impressed by this hypocritical behaviour, except our resident Scottish nationalist who happens to be English.... Crazy World we live in. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4378 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) I know they've shit the bed but I think when it comes down to it tory voters will stay more loyal than projected - even in 2015 there was a wave of last minute defections from the polls that made all the difference. Recent polls have Labour winning Chelmsford but even Blair never came within a million miles of beating the tories here and it won't happen now. Edited February 22 by NJS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4378 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 minute ago, Renton said: This SNP prick, whoever he is. He bemoans we should be talking about Gaza, not party politics. I mean, labour fucking well literally got a ceasefire bill in yesterday didn't they against a tory opposition who bottled it? Why not shut up and support it instead of whinging on about ancient parliamentary custom? Then compains the the Lib Dems didn't get their ammendment selected. So what, they're a smaller party than Labour aren't they, and there's limited time? Also the SNP claimed Hoyle was threatened and bullied by Labour (without any evidence that I can see, incidentally) and then - he and his party remorselessly try to bully Hoyle into resignation. I can't see anybody being impressed by this hypocritical behaviour, except our resident Scottish nationalist who happens to be English.... Crazy World we live in. The motion removed collective punishment which was the trap but still shows the toxic position Labour holds. The real motion should've been about arms sales and military support for genocide but "grown ups" can't entertain that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 minute ago, NJS said: I know they've shit the bed but I think when it comes down to it tory voters will stay more loyal than projected - even in 2015 there was a wave of last minute defections from the polss that made all the difference. Recent polls have Labour winning Chelmsford but even Blair never came within a million moles of beating the tories here and it won't happen now. This is what I keep hearing from all quarters. A lot has changed in the last 10 and 30 years. The conservative core demographic of aspirational middle class southern wankers has collapsed because they are fucked by the housing crisis and the economy. They literally have no reason to vote tory now. The only age demographic they have a mjority in is the over 65s, nobody of working age will vote for the shit show, for purely selfish reasons if nothing else. That demographic is not enough to avoid annihilation. Barring something completely unforseen, they are fucked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, NJS said: The real motion should've been about arms sales and military support for genocide but "grown ups" can't entertain that. Sematics, But agreed on the above, that would have been the debate to be had. Were the SNP proposing that? Amazes me that you hold Labour accountable and toxic when they are in opposition with no leverage at all over foreign policy. Almost like you want them to fall for every trap going so they don't get elected. In truth, I don't know why this is even debated in Parliament when there are so many urgent issues in the country itself. And in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4378 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Normally you'd be right and the SNP should be shot with shit as well but despite what I said above its almost certain Labour will be in power at the end of this year at the very latest which is why what they are saying/doing is arguably more important than the tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 The crowd for Truss at CPAC. Back in your box, daft bitch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Spitfire socks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 minute ago, Gemmill said: Spitfire socks. Farage loathes her, despite her being a literal fascist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I bet he'd love to mash those baps. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Just now, Gemmill said: I bet he'd love to mash those baps. Well, if we're being honest.... What's your take @Monkeys Fist? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6583 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I dont care if she blew a £30bn hole in the economy, I’d motorboat the fuck out of them. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Alabaster with a network of thick blue veins. Like blue cheese. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Jesus Christ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 56 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Alabaster with a network of thick blue veins. Like blue cheese. And dead behind the eyes, that’s exactly your type. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42417 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, Renton said: Well, if we're being honest.... What's your take @Monkeys Fist? Wouldn’t be the first time I’ve ignored terrible personality in favour of tremendous baps. Would. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21614 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 hours ago, Monkeys Fist said: Wouldn’t be the first time I’ve ignored terrible personality in favour of tremendous baps. Would. It was a rhetorical tag. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Nobody in the UK, and by that I mean most people as opposed to literally nobody, gives a fucking shit about Gaza. And even less people care about this absolute fucking bollocks of debating it in the commons. It’s pathetic stuff from the SNP and it’s all because Labour are about to give them a shoeing in Scotland at the general election. And ditto from the Tories who are about to get an even bigger fucking lacing from Labour in England. So the fact it has backfired is fucking great. And all the Corbynite cunts who have barely said a peep / quickly forgot about things happening in places like Afghanistan and Syria, because it didn’t give them a opportunity (in their eyes) to legitimise their antisemitism can go fuck themselves as well. Poking this particular hornets nest is only going to increase the chance of more Muslims and Jews getting attacked purely for who they are. That along with scoring cheap political points (not this time though, unlucky). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 3 hours ago, Monkeys Fist said: Wouldn’t be the first time I’ve ignored terrible personality in favour of tremendous baps. Would. Pork markets 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/22/truss-at-cpac-00142807 Sounds like Truss's experience was like going to Comic-Con as some washed up has-been from a 70s BBC sci-fi show. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15524 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 "It’s 50 bucks for meeting some of the most insane people on Earth" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44853 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Yeah. No. It's a no. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11263 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Fuck's sake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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