Christmas Tree 4834 Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 Who here is better off than they were last election? That's not really the point. The financial disaster that took place on Labours watch has caused havoc. Many families and businesses will take heart that we now seem to be heading out of that disaster. Trying to quantify whether people are better off is tough given the fact that a lot of that pre crash happiness was fuelled by unrealistic borrowings and unsustainable government spending / policies. The stability of the interest rates for at least 3 years is very good news for a lot of families and business. Tbh Im not really bothered too much about the party politics of it, Im just very pleased its going in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22003 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 That's not really the point. The financial disaster that took place on Labours watch has caused havoc. Many families and businesses will take heart that we now seem to be heading out of that disaster. Trying to quantify whether people are better off is tough given the fact that a lot of that pre crash happiness was fuelled by unrealistic borrowings and unsustainable government spending / policies. The stability of the interest rates for at least 3 years is very good news for a lot of families and business. Tbh Im not really bothered too much about the party politics of it, Im just very pleased its going in the right direction. Inflation has consistently outstripped salary increases fir years now = real reduction in living standards. 1% increase in NHS pay now over 4 years, for instance, what's inflation been cumulatively in this time? Plus job security is shite at a time when most people couldn't survive a month without their income (Beeb article last week). Loads of other problems too numerous to get in to as well. Of course this will affect next election, mind so will the press and perception of Milliband. Of course it's good if we can get some economic growth, but think there's a danger of jumping the gun here considering previous economic estimates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17661 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 That's not really the point. The financial disaster that took place on Labours watch has caused havoc. Many families and businesses will take heart that we now seem to be heading out of that disaster. Trying to quantify whether people are better off is tough given the fact that a lot of that pre crash happiness was fuelled by unrealistic borrowings and unsustainable government spending / policies. The stability of the interest rates for at least 3 years is very good news for a lot of families and business. Tbh Im not really bothered too much about the party politics of it, Im just very pleased its going in the right direction. Do you think interest rates will remain this low?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4834 Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 Do you think interest rates will remain this low?... ??? Guaranteed for the next 3 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15723 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 http://coppolacomment.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/the-illusory-housing-recovery.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4834 Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 Not a mention anywhere of Egg Milliband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15723 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Not a mention anywhere of Egg Milliband Not a mention anywhere of Su Pollard This game is fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3974 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Who here is better off than they were last election? I don't know anyone who is. It's a simple fact that living standards ate in perpetual decline, especially outside the capital. I fail to see what feel good factor the Tories have to win them votes, although the opposition is equally pathetic. I knew you'd post in this thread today CT, very predictable. I am.I was a student at the last general election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22003 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Ceteris Paribas, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 That's not really the point. The financial disaster that took place on Labours watch has caused havoc. Many families and businesses will take heart that we now seem to be heading out of that disaster. Trying to quantify whether people are better off is tough given the fact that a lot of that pre crash happiness was fuelled by unrealistic borrowings and unsustainable government spending / policies. The stability of the interest rates for at least 3 years is very good news for a lot of families and business. Tbh Im not really bothered too much about the party politics of it, Im just very pleased its going in the right direction. Aye it was all Labour's fault for that global economic crisis. Even more mental was the fact that the Conversatives had pledged to match their public spending during that time as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4834 Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 Aye it was all Labour's fault for that global economic crisis. Even more mental was the fact that the Conversatives had pledged to match their public spending during that time as well. I said on their watch, particularly for sensitive souls. They did however add to our woes and failed to make the most of the booming economy left to them by the Tories in 97. Hard to criticise a shadow government for agreeing to match spending when they were unaware of the massive finacial black holes left by Labour. At least Liam found it funny. Anyway, at least a 100% Tory government is pretty much guaranteed now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15723 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Anyway, at least a 100% Tory government is pretty much guaranteed now. Money/mouth: http://www.oddschecker.com/politics-and-election/next-uk-general-election/overall-majority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31209 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Hard to criticise a shadow government for agreeing to match spending when they were unaware of the massive finacial black holes left by Labour. Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4834 Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 Eh? Until you see the books it's all a bit guessy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31209 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 In your experience of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4834 Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 In your experience of? An opposition can only go on the facts and figures publicly available. When you get into office and see the absolute mess and financial mis management then you have no option but to act on the facts rather than the fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22003 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 An opposition can only go on the facts and figures publicly available. When you get into office and see the absolute mess and financial mis management then you have no option but to act on the facts rather than the fiction. Government spending is publicly available. We actually live in a very transparent country. The conservatives in opposition knew just as much as labour about the public accounts if they bothered to research it (which of course they have armies of researchers for). The sole problem was no-one foresaw the crash, the rest is blatant lies. What do you make if that odds checker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3974 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Government spending is publicly available. We actually live in a very transparent country. The conservatives in opposition knew just as much as labour about the public accounts if they bothered to research it (which of course they have armies of researchers for). The sole problem was no-one foresaw the crash, the rest is blatant lies. What do you make if that odds checker? Are you sure no one foresaw the crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22003 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Are you sure no one foresaw the crash. ok, except Parky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4834 Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 Government spending is publicly available. We actually live in a very transparent country. The conservatives in opposition knew just as much as labour about the public accounts if they bothered to research it (which of course they have armies of researchers for). The sole problem was no-one foresaw the crash, the rest is blatant lies. What do you make if that odds checker? Black holes in labours spending plans were not public knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22003 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Black holes in labours spending plans were not public knowledge. Please elaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4834 Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 Please elaborate. It's all been discussed to death man. Google if you need a refresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22003 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 It's all been discussed to death man. Google if you need a refresh. Thought so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3974 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Labour need to accept the blame for PPI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Labour need to accept the blame for PPI That's a scandal and a half right there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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