Alex 34912 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said: Dobby is a Buddhist though, unbelievable but true. In the same way JRM is a Christian 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/24/rachel-reeves-economic-thinking-social-democracy#comments Rachel Reeves apparently going for Bidenomics - Neoliberal leanings, and an Osbornian take on austerity. Admittedly I'm struggling a little to place her positions on this exactly but that's my reading of it based on the cues in the article. She looks like the centrist's centrist to me - worked for a bank, PPE degree, wants to do Tory economic policy but more competently. Even with the polls narrowing there's little doubt in my mind that Labour are going to win, so it'll be interesting to see how all of this plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30369 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Rayvin said: an Osbornian take on austerity. I'm not sure quite how you got that from the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, ewerk said: I'm not sure quite how you got that from the article. And the fourth is that all this must happen within effective national fiscal rules – and not by allowing debt to balloon. That's how I'm interpreting this sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30369 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Rayvin said: And the fourth is that all this must happen within effective national fiscal rules – and not by allowing debt to balloon. That's how I'm interpreting this sentence. I think that's a bit of a leap tbh. Debt under New Labour remained steady until 2008 and I'm not sure you could say that they're the part of austerity never mind Obsorne levels of austerity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, ewerk said: I think that's a bit of a leap tbh. Debt under New Labour remained steady until 2008 and I'm not sure you could say that they're the part of austerity never mind Obsorne levels of austerity. Fair - I hope a lot of this becomes clearer as we move forward, it's tedious having to sift out key details from opinion pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Doesn't even say she will cut debt there? We don't want more debt, we want more fair distribution of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Just now, Renton said: Doesn't even say she will cut debt there? We don't want more debt, we want more fair distribution of money. It's not really mentioned much on this either but tbf I'm not sure this is the speech for it. This seems to be more about getting the UK back to some sort of productive economic position, the social impacts of which aren't touched so much in the piece. You would hope that would be part of it but they're shying away from tax rises so it's hard to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Just now, Rayvin said: Fair - I hope a lot of this becomes clearer as we move forward, it's tedious having to sift out key details from opinion pieces. Think you're going to have to wait for the manifesto, pretty close to the GE. Every policy Labour make at the moment gets stolen by the tories at the moment - Bridget's childcare being a case in point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44495 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Sunak on This Morning claiming he likes Jilly Cooper novels. The bloke is a fucking alien. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30369 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Says the man sat at home watching This Morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44495 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Not my fault the rag and bone trade doesn't cater for home working. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) To the bean counters out there (ewerk, Gemmill), is this something we should be worried about? Edited May 26, 2023 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30369 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 I think it's the inflation figures that have caused this, the figures released yesterday were disappointing and the markets clearly think that the BoE are going to raise interest rates higher than they had previously expected. So this basically means that government borrowing is more costly than before. Hopefully inflation will calm down in the next year and these will go back to normal. Suddenly my 4.19% 2 year fixed deal isn't looking so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44495 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Aye rates are now expected to go as high as 5.00% to 5.25%. I'm fixed til summer 2026, which I feel incredibly fortunate about. The world just feels a mess atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 I'm paying well over 2k on my mortgage now and yes, I heard, yesterday they're expecting another three fucking rises. Each 0.25% rise costs me about £20-30 I think and there's been 12 in a row now. Half my mortgage is fixed for two years, half is a life-time tracker 0.75 above base rate. Think my fixed rate ends in 2 years. Let's hope things have improved by then. Then energy, food, etc. My outgoings are horrific. And fucking taxes, which I wouldn't mind if services were improving but fucking hell, the country is falling to bits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44495 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Fucking good, since his entire shameful political choice to cut the country to the fucking bone undoubtedly killed people. Fuck all will happen but maybe just a bit of attention about the actual human cost of austerity might land with a few of the 'a national economy is like a household budget' halfwits. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21847 Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 On 26/05/2023 at 11:21, ewerk said: I think it's the inflation figures that have caused this, the figures released yesterday were disappointing and the markets clearly think that the BoE are going to raise interest rates higher than they had previously expected. So this basically means that government borrowing is more costly than before. Hopefully inflation will calm down in the next year and these will go back to normal. Suddenly my 4.19% 2 year fixed deal isn't looking so bad. normal might be 4-5% again. It was for the first few years of my first mortgage pre-2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44495 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 I see "Gateshead's" Sebastian Payne, formerly of the FT, has been shortlisted as a Conservative Party candidate in Selby and Ainsty (maj. 20k in 2019). Proper little Tory bootkisser, now hoping to get his rewards for services to the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30369 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 If you were asked to imagine what a young Tory looks like it would be exactly like Seb Payne. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42129 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 41 minutes ago, ewerk said: If you were asked to imagine what a young Tory looks like it would be exactly like Seb Payne. Interests- Choking on oranges, pegging, Narnia. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Johnson's been deleting his WhatsApp messages it seems. About as convinicing as Rebekah Vardy's excuse. What's the fat cunt hiding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30369 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, Renton said: What's the fat cunt hiding? Not enough. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44495 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 This seems like it should be top of Parliament's agenda atm. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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