Gemmill 44495 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Moodys UK outlook now neagtive. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63352556 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 We really do, and I believe I say these earnestly even with my innate bias, need a general election. The people need it, politics needs it, even the Tories need it. They need to spend the next 5 years working out what the hell their party is even doing anymore, it's becoming increasingly clear that they can't do this on the fly. Their MPs need to dig deep, remember that the point of them being there is "public service" and get the fuck out of the way of the nation's governance. I've said it before but they are at this point a domestic terrorist organization powered by incompetence. Stand the fuck down, Conservative Party. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9298 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) Sunak won't declare until he knows Johnson can't get 100 as he knows membership won't vote for the brown guy, and there's this: Edited October 22, 2022 by Toonpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21847 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rayvin said: We really do, and I believe I say these earnestly even with my innate bias, need a general election. The people need it, politics needs it, even the Tories need it. They need to spend the next 5 years working out what the hell their party is even doing anymore, it's becoming increasingly clear that they can't do this on the fly. Their MPs need to dig deep, remember that the point of them being there is "public service" and get the fuck out of the way of the nation's governance. I've said it before but they are at this point a domestic terrorist organization powered by incompetence. Stand the fuck down, Conservative Party. There was even an unnamed Tory MP quoted at some point week this week saying they need a period in opposition. It might do them less lasting damage than another 18 months of civil war 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11158 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Just now, Toonpack said: Sinai won't declare until he knows Johnson can't get 100 as he knows membership won't vote for the brown guy, and there's this: Pure Trump playbook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 So then if Johnson gets the 100, he's going to be the only one on the ticket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34912 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Just now, Rayvin said: We really do, and I believe I say these earnestly even with my innate bias, need a general election. The people need it, politics needs it, even the Tories need it. They need to spend the next 5 years working out what the hell their party is even doing anymore, it's becoming increasingly clear that they can't do this on the fly. Their MPs need to dig deep, remember that the point of them being there is "public service" and get the fuck out of the way of the nation's governance. I've said it before but they are at this point a domestic terrorist organization powered by incompetence. Stand the fuck down, Conservative Party. I agree but they’re largely only in it for themselves. The only scenario I see it happening in is the aforementioned Johnson back in and then the party tearing itself apart. Which could quite possibly be only a matter of days were 20 or 30 to resign the whip. And while Johnson returning mildly terrifies me, I think what I’ve just described is the best scenario. Putting aside the fact I fucking hate them, that’s a truly dreadful state of affairs when that’s what’s probably best for the country 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Alex said: I agree but they’re largely only in it for themselves. The only scenario I see it happening in is the aforementioned Johnson back in and then the party tearing itself apart. Which could quite possibly be only a matter of days were 20 or 30 to resign the whip. And while Johnson returning mildly terrifies me, I think what I’ve just described is the best scenario. Putting aside the fact I fucking hate them, that’s a truly dreadful state of affairs when that’s what’s probably best for the country Johnson could also be found guilty of lying to parliament by the standards Committee, which could trigger a suspension, which could trigger a by-election I doubt he'd win. The only thing I am certain of now is the conservative party will pick the worst options for themselves and the country. I hate these cunts, fortunately that is now becoming the prevailing feeling for everyone 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, Rayvin said: So then if Johnson gets the 100, he's going to be the only one on the ticket? Possibly, although I imagine enough Sunak voters would switch to Mardaunt? Does anyone know much about Penny "Dormant" btw? Feedback seems to be she is as useless as Truss albeit a better communicator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34912 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Renton said: Possibly, although I imagine enough Sunak voters would switch to Mardaunt? Does anyone know much about Penny "Dormant" btw? Feedback seems to be she is as useless as Truss albeit a better communicator. Electoral calculus has him down to lose his seat by a huge margin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42129 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Renton said: Penny "Dormant" btw? Feedback seems to be she is as useless as Truss albeit a better communicator. That’s most of the Tory party, tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 I don't think there's anyone they have now that has any real intellectual standing or ability. They've gone through the bottom of the barrel and are chiselling into the earth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) So let's see. We get a Johnson coronation. About 10 of his party immediately denounce the whip but he survives. But he is then found guilty of lying to parliament and is suspended. His constituents force a by election. He loses. Then we have a GE and the conservative party cease to exist. I'll be happy with that. Edited October 22, 2022 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 The only concern with that is the suspension thing is so obviously in front of him, why is it not being seen by those voting for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9298 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Patel's come out for the blonde cunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9298 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Rayvin said: The only concern with that is the suspension thing is so obviously in front of him, why is it not being seen by those voting for him? They'll reckon they can quash it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 A great force for political good I can't even respond to that. Fucking hell. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11158 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Just now, Rayvin said: A great force for political good Translated as he'll give me a job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 38 minutes ago, Toonpack said: They'll reckon they can quash it. Chaired by Yvette Cooper isn't it? So I doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34912 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Patel’s missed being able to put her fascist ideology into practice I see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7073 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 32 minutes ago, RobinRobin said: Translated as he'll give me a blowjob FYP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11158 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, trophyshy said: FYP Not sure that's quite right but I acknowledge the sentiment 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44495 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9298 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Renton said: Chaired by Yvette Cooper isn't it? So I doubt it A vote in parliament could disband/cancel it, hugely contentious (corrupt) but possible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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