Alex 34913 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Sunak’s answers to what’s your favourite…? Remind me of Johnson talking about painting win boxes to look like London buses. Ie completely made up bollocks because he’s incapable of acting like a human Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44498 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 The fact Truss has ruled out an OBR analysis of her emergency budget before she announces it btw. Yeah let's just roll the fucking dice you daft cow. It's not like they won't do their analysis afterwards and fucking demolish it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30370 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Gemmill said: The thing I loved most about that quote was him saying "yeah that's just our thing", like this is just what cool dad Rishi does with his kids and you can not like me and my party but you can't take away my Maccy D time with my kids. And it was a fucking lie. These people are so so awful. His team's defence was even worse. Quote ‘Rishi has barely seen his kids in the last two and half years since he became chancellor so there has been almost no opportunity to share a McDonald’s with them. So 'Vote for the deadbeat Dad'. Well I suppose it worked for Johnson. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Renton said: No government can survive this shit storm, inflation getting near 20% ffs. As thing are projected now Labour would win a 120 seat majority with key tories including Rees-Mogg, Peter Bone and Johnson himself being unseated. Also she is fucking awful to listen to. I find it hard to imagine she will get a blip let alone a bump. Rees Mogg losing his seat would be glorious. It would almost make the economic Armageddon worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44498 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, ewerk said: His team's defence was even worse. So 'Vote for the deadbeat Dad'. Well I suppose it worked for Johnson. "Yeah well it WAS our thing. When I saw my kids, it was! It might still be their thing, I don't know, I never talk to them." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44498 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Rees Mogg losing his seat would be glorious. It would almost make the economic Armageddon worthwhile. If Rees Mogg doesn't lose his seat at the next election, we should put a bus on and just go down and kick the fuck out of everyone we see and wreck the place. There needs to be consequences for this man's continued appearance on our TVs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 54 minutes ago, Gemmill said: The fact Truss has ruled out an OBR analysis of her emergency budget before she announces it btw. Yeah let's just roll the fucking dice you daft cow. It's not like they won't do their analysis afterwards and fucking demolish it anyway. They didn't even bother doing an economic analysis of Johnson's Brexit deal. But nobody in the media gave a shit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 52 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Rees Mogg losing his seat would be glorious. It would almost make the economic Armageddon worthwhile. I dunno mate. Seems like a pyhrric victory to me, he'll be alright whatever happens to him after shafting us all. You're probably too young to remember the unseating of Portillo in 1997. That was truly glorious moment, but there were a lot of differences. The main one being the country was feeding on a wave of optimism with our best days ahead of us (which we had imo until the tories got back in and fucked it all more than ever before). Now they have robbed me of all hope and left us with the wet drip Starmer to look forward to at most (yes, my opinion on him is souring). I can't see anyway of getting out of this abyss but maybe that's my depression talking, hard to tell nowadays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I mean I'm right there with you, it was just tongue in cheek really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42129 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Starmer’s not a bad politician imo, it’s just that we’ve had such a parade of cunts that he appears to be a bit ordinary because, well, he’s not a cunt. If he became our next Labour PM after Truss I wouldn’t be concerned for the future of our country, unlike the present pack of bastards. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4375 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 I really hope he takes the hint that the most recent increase in lead was directly after they announced an actual policy/idea. I'd like so see more obviously but even a half-decent suggestion of an idea did reasonably well - just try some more..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17124 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 What a completely unexpected surprise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Monkeys Fist said: Starmer’s not a bad politician imo, it’s just that we’ve had such a parade of cunts that he appears to be a bit ordinary because, well, he’s not a cunt. If he became our next Labour PM after Truss I wouldn’t be concerned for the future of our country, unlike the present pack of bastards. I kind of agree but just think he hasn't got it in him to start the changes this country desperately needs, major constitutional change. We're in an existential crisis now and a safe pair of hands just doesn't cut it now imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11160 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Difficult to see from afar, but we have just replaced a lying, power-hungry, fundamentalist with a bland politician as PM and he seems to be pushing ahead with a reform agenda (perhaps not as drastic as you are advocating) and is hugely popular. Sometimes boring is what you need when all you have had for years is incompetence masquerading as maverick. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30370 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 7 hours ago, Renton said: I kind of agree but just think he hasn't got it in him to start the changes this country desperately needs, major constitutional change. Who does? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7073 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Sunak wasn’t at Live Aid ffs. He just heard it from his summer school in Bucks, the jug-eared gobshite. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ewerk said: Who does? Nicolas Sturgeon, Michelle O'Neill? This isn't the change I want though. Get PR in, then federalise the UK. Andy Burnham might be the man for this. Someone has to. Edited August 23, 2022 by Renton 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5186 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 34 minutes ago, Renton said: Nicolas Sturgeon, Michelle O'Neill? This isn't the change I want though. Get PR in, then federalise the UK. Andy Burnham might be the man for this. Someone has to. Someone somewhere needs to be brave enough to push the notion that we don't have time for the current bullshit anymore, and that we need to be dragged kicking and screaming into an age of collaboration and productive discussion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30370 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 You have to wonder that when the country is in chaos would now be the chance to sneak something like PR into the manifesto knowing that it isn't going to be the main issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Burnham is a great shout tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4375 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 The polls show that now Scotland is dead to them, Labour need a ridiculous poll lead over the tories to get even a single figure majority (i.e. > 326) but Starmer dismisses PR and at the same time says he won't form coalitions. It's delusional. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 29 minutes ago, NJS said: The polls show that now Scotland is dead to them, Labour need a ridiculous poll lead over the tories to get even a single figure majority (i.e. > 326) but Starmer dismisses PR and at the same time says he won't form coalitions. It's delusional. It might be but reflecting the shit storm coming our way, which will fuck blue wall pensioners as much as everyone else (in fact moreso if Truss carries out her tax cuts which won't benefit them), I don't think its beyond possible that Labour could win an outright majority even without Scotland. Pretty much all the opinion polls indicate this will happen, latest ones show Labour on an incrediblke 120 majority. But I think this could be ironically disastrous long-term, giving Starmer a mandate like this. I want to force him into coalition, whther official or not, and make him realise that it is in Labour's interest to get PR in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34913 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Electoral Calculus had Labour just short of an overall majority. Albeit looking at the previous month’s combined polls up to the end of July Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 That would be a good result. If Labour can't win a clear majority now, they never will under FPTP. I was listening to an interesting podcast yesterday. Europe, especially central and Eastern Europe, is much more exposed to the energy crisis than us. But since the war in Ukraine the EU have effectively gone into a war footing to fix their infrastructure to stop their reliance on Russian gas. All EU countries cooperating to get this done. The work is estimated to be completed by Spring next year, meaning they're in for a very tough winter which most politicians are honest enough to tell their citizens. Meanwhile the UK, in potentially a much better position, has done fuck all to address the coming crisis through a combination of incompetence, corruption, and paralysis. And a media system that simply won't tell the truth to her majesty's subjects (we're not even citizens here). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4375 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Renton said: That would be a good result. If Labour can't win a clear majority now, they never will under FPTP. That's what I'm getting at though - if they get a small working majority based on the tory shitshow that's good but the next and subsequent elections would always be close calls - especially if they are unwilling or unable to affect real change. That's why they should use that "last" FPTP victory to get PR in imo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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