Howmanheyman 32826 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Alex said: Surprised they didn’t need Pickford’s His feeble arms couldn't carry her. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 The solution is obvious, let people claim asylum before passaging the channel. But there's no facility to do this. So instead they have to risk their lives and are deemed "illegal". It's ridiculous this is hardly ever discussed, at least Sarah Vine has a go here I suppose. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34913 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Rayvin said: How long until the next GE? It feels like we've had an eternity under Johnson now and while I did at one point believe he'd bottom out on lunacy and "populist" trash, I now suspect that what I think the basement level floor of human decency is, is already something he's looking upwards at. The fixed term Parliament act was repealed so it could be sooner but it could be as far away as January 2025. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34913 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: His feeble arms couldn't carry her. Was waiting for something like that when I posted it. Couldn’t think of another removal firm though 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34913 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 2 hours ago, KingKev1984 said: It has one of the highest standards of living in Africa Was wondering when the next one would turn up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10779 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Alex said: Surprised they didn’t need Pickford’s What? With his little arms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30370 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, The Fish said: What? With his little arms? That's twice in one day in this very thread that you've repeated someone else's joke. Sort your fucking life out, mate. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 298 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 55 minutes ago, Alex said: The fixed term Parliament act was repealed so it could be sooner but it could be as far away as January 2025. And to think that I was passionately opposed to this , as I felt it allowed the "ruling" party to pick the best time for them, based on public opinion. Seems in BJ's case, its the further away the better - but he's got a trail as long as the equator behind him of shit already - it's clearly his modus operandi to create a web of lies and say one thing and do another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobos 298 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Renton said: The solution is obvious, let people claim asylum before passaging the channel. But there's no facility to do this. So instead they have to risk their lives and are deemed "illegal". It's ridiculous this is hardly ever discussed, at least Sarah Vine has a go here I suppose. Well that's total bollocks on so many fronts. This "first safe country" is total bollocks not in the convention. We are supposed to be working to take a fair share based on quota of refugees, not immigrants, not economic or social migrants, but refugees. The tories very cleverly started calling refugees - migrants, years ago and its stuck . I personally think, if the country feels this way and we are going to act this way - then we need to be honest about it and leave the Geneva Convention for Refugees and own the shame that comes with that. Being a member , and sending a message to the world that we are here to help genuine refugees, then not giving them any legal entry point other than "sling them back" (aussie term) - is just some kind of evil imo. Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees - Wikipedia Germany shames us AGAIN.. There's some surprising info in the countries that genuinelly do take "more than their fair share" and we arent one of them. We do it all the time too, get involved in wars, or arm the aggressor (modern equivalent is Yemen, but Afghanistan 5 years ago is the same) - then it takes refugees months to travel here and we turn them away after leafletting them to leave and that we will help. A large number of these refugees are a result of our economic, military policy, its a harsh truth , but it is a truth. UNHCR - Refugee Statistics Edited April 14, 2022 by scoobos 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10779 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 50 minutes ago, ewerk said: That's twice in one day in this very thread that you've repeated someone else's joke. Sort your fucking life out, mate. I'm a busy man. I soar over most of these threads like an eagle, I'm only wasting my altitude if it's worth my time. Which this wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15432 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, ewerk said: That's twice in one day in this very thread that you've repeated someone else's joke. Sort your fucking life out, mate. Comedy Dave Chegwin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32826 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Meenzer said: Comedy Dave Chegwin Ronny Gill Dave, some redeeming features. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, scoobos said: Well that's total bollocks on so many fronts. This "first safe country" is total bollocks not in the convention. We are supposed to be working to take a fair share based on quota of refugees, not immigrants, not economic or social migrants, but refugees. The tories very cleverly started calling refugees - migrants, years ago and its stuck . I personally think, if the country feels this way and we are going to act this way - then we need to be honest about it and leave the Geneva Convention for Refugees and own the shame that comes with that. Being a member , and sending a message to the world that we are here to help genuine refugees, then not giving them any legal entry point other than "sling them back" (aussie term) - is just some kind of evil imo. Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees - Wikipedia Germany shames us AGAIN.. There's some surprising info in the countries that genuinelly do take "more than their fair share" and we arent one of them. We do it all the time too, get involved in wars, or arm the aggressor (modern equivalent is Yemen, but Afghanistan 5 years ago is the same) - then it takes refugees months to travel here and we turn them away after leafletting them to leave and that we will help. A large number of these refugees are a result of our economic, military policy, its a harsh truth , but it is a truth. UNHCR - Refugee Statistics Agree totally. Avoid listening to Johnson's speech today if you can for the sake of your sanity/blood pressure. The lies and hypocrisy are something else. It's obvious the Rwanda bollocks isn't possible under the framework of the current international conventions. Which means he is either planning ultimately to take us out, or he is sabre rattling with a view to the next election, where he will again blame lefty lawyers (which he did repeatedly today). We're being gaslit to a very dangerous place. With the cost of living crisis in full swing, blame will shift more from the EU to immigrants and refugees as a handy scape goat. Edited April 14, 2022 by Renton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7009 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Boris has 3 more fines coming apparently. And all for bigger transgressions than his last fine. We've also got Sue Gray's report to be published. Boris might not see the Summer yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42129 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: Boris might not see the Summer yet One can but hope… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34913 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Howmanheyman said: Ronny Gill Dave, some redeeming features. Flawed but not interesting 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34913 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 2 hours ago, The Fish said: I'm a busy man. I soar over most of these threads like an eagle, I'm only wasting my altitude if it's worth my time. Which this wasn't. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Kid Dynamite said: Boris has 3 more fines coming apparently. And all for bigger transgressions than his last fine. We've also got Sue Gray's report to be published. Boris might not see the Summer yet Well, if he keeps up with these racist distraction stunts, he'll be opening a new Auschwitz by the time the Sue Gray report comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21393 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) Also, if he does get these other fines, I take it they will increase in cost because he's a repeat offender? There's students in Newcastle who got 10k fines. Edited April 14, 2022 by Renton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32826 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Monkeys Fist said: One can but hope… One can. But Hope..... "What, man?!" 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Renton 21393 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, ewerk said: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4375 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 I think the saddest thing about the 350m bus thing was that the people who bought it actually believed a tory government would spend it if it was true. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Isegrim 9737 Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 They have found a new toy to mess with… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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