Politics

[Gemmill 44569]

There's a thread floating about on twitter going through the full report, praising it for how well presented and thorough it is, and dismantling Paterson's claims. He hasn't got a leg to stand on basically. 

[Gemmill 44569]

1 minute ago, Rayvin said:

 

Yeah but they're targeting different demographics - Corbyn was popular with young and idealistic people (and will therefore have had lots of their support in his campaigning and marketing) whereas Starmer is trying to appeal to middle England. I mean I agree Twitter isn't the place for his statement particularly though - he'd be better off putting it on Facebook given the people he's trying to win over.

 

Aye I dunno what the answer is, but it's not what he's currently doing. And after this long as leader, with this little movement in the polls, you'd have hoped he'd realise it. 

Edited November 4, 2021 by Gemmill

[Rayvin 5189]

I still genuinely believe that the answer is to stick to Labour's principles and give up trying to win over people who are clearly not going to cross the aisle.

[Monkeys Fist 42219]

4 hours ago, ewerk said:

At the time he said he had no idea why she'd taken her own life. After being found guilty suddenly the investigation was the cause.

Blamed it on her catching Coronavirus- no mention at all about his cuntishness being investigated as a contributory factor. 
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9204559/amp/MP-Owen-Paterson-believes-catching-coronavirus-affected-wifes-mental-health.html

 

( It’s the Daily Heil, hence the TL:DR above, don’t click on that). 

[Gemmill 44569]

 

 

 

 

 

[Renton 21461]

1 hour ago, Gemmill said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

What the fuck? 

[TheGingerQuiff 2412]

She topped herself on his birthday, in case you were in any doubt over whether she held any resentment towards him.

[TheGingerQuiff 2412]

Anyone watching Newsnight? What an absolute predator 

[ewerk 30409]

9 hours ago, Gemmill said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Gemmill 44569]

Of course they will. And now so will the Lib Dem and the Greens. 

[ewerk 30409]

A single high profile anti-sleeze candidate would have done the Tories plenty of damage and had they won would have continued to be a reminder of Tory sleaze through the remainder of this parliament. It looks like a lost opportunity to me.

[Renton 21461]

35 minutes ago, ewerk said:

A single high profile anti-sleeze candidate would have done the Tories plenty of damage and had they won would have continued to be a reminder of Tory sleaze through the remainder of this parliament. It looks like a lost opportunity to me.

 

Yeah, on reflection you're right. Don't know if any suitable Martin Bell's are around though. I would have preferred Labour to hand the LDs a free pass personally. 

[Renton 21461]

Fun to watch him squirm.

 

 

 

[Rayvin 5189]

Amazing  

 

Translation: "I have read it but yeah he's a crook tbh but there's loads of people in our party, including myself quite possibly, doing the same thing - so it's difficult to be critical of him really".

[NJS 4375]

"And while we're on, your wife registered a medical services company after you got the vaccine gig - WTF is that about, cunt?" 

[Renton 21461]

Btw, just a reminder this cunt claimed back expenses to heat his stables. 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/nov/10/nadhim-zahawi-admits-taxpayers-electricity-stables

 

Nearly £6k paid by tax payers.

 

And that reminds me @Gemmill, your advice to claim back expenses on working from home. I did and I think HMRC are paying me about £6.00 a month, whoopee. Meanwhile my application prompted them to review my tax status and they're now deducting an extra £100 a month from my pay. Cheers mate. 🍺🖕

[Kid Dynamite 7012]

4 hours ago, Rayvin said:

Amazing  

 

Translation: "I have read it but yeah he's a crook tbh but there's loads of people in our party, including myself quite possibly, doing the same thing - so it's difficult to be critical of him really".

You give him too much credit. A closer translation would be: "I didn't read it, I just did what the whip told me to do because I know which side my bread is buttered....erm oops, did I say that out loud? I mean of course I read it before making my vote"

Edited November 5, 2021 by Kid Dynamite

[Gemmill 44569]

16 minutes ago, Renton said:

Btw, just a reminder this cunt claimed back expenses to heat his stables. 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/nov/10/nadhim-zahawi-admits-taxpayers-electricity-stables

 

Nearly £6k paid by tax payers.

 

And that reminds me @Gemmill, your advice to claim back expenses on working from home. I did and I think HMRC are paying me about £6.00 a month, whoopee. Meanwhile my application prompted them to review my tax status and they're now deducting an extra £100 a month from my pay. Cheers mate. 🍺🖕

 

 

This could not have gone any better. Thank you for making my day. 

[Dr Gloom 21869]

some cut-through finally? 

[Gemmill 44569]

I think this sleaze thing could roll on as well. The Tories are absolutely covered in this shit - Johnson just keeps doing it. Anyone with any sense, with everything else going on, wouldn't have pulled this shit he's done with not recording his holiday from Zac Goldsmith correctly. They just would have paid for their own holiday like every fucker else does. 

 

He's just a big entitled cunt, and even when the heat is on, he can't help himself from thinking he can get away with shit. 

[Renton 21461]

21 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

some cut-through finally? 

 

Most data taken before the Paterson scandal as well. I'm truly hopeful we might be at tipping point. People are waking up to Brexit being shit so that's a handicap for him now. When the cost of living increases hit, I just can't see him surviving tbh. 

[Rayvin 5189]

Holy shit, some actual good news.

 

The sleaze stuff does genuinely appear to be pissing off the gammons, I'm not sure which of their principles it's violating since it looks entirely routine to me in terms of how we got here, but long may it continue.

 

I actually think the constant war with the EU is probably also affecting this. You'd have to be pretty fucking stupid to back Johnson while he rips up a deal he agreed to while blaming the EU for it.

[ewerk 30409]

I can only assume that the constant battle with the EU is because he thinks it plays well with his voters. He obviously doesn't give a fuck about NI so I can't see any other reason for him to pick a fight.

[Rayvin 5189]

So Starmer's approach is working? He's clearly pulled people away from the Tories there. I'd imagine that 4% have gone Tory -> Labour and 4% have gone Labour -> Greens.

 

So the left continue to leave Labour but finally Starmer has managed to start capturing some of the centre. It's good news.

[Renton 21461]

1 minute ago, Rayvin said:

Holy shit, some actual good news.

 

The sleaze stuff does genuinely appear to be pissing off the gammons, I'm not sure which of their principles it's violating since it looks entirely routine to me in terms of how we got here, but long may it continue.

 

I actually think the constant war with the EU is probably also affecting this. You'd have to be pretty fucking stupid to back Johnson while he rips up a deal he agreed to while blaming the EU for it.

 

The Sleaze stuff isn't fully factored in yet, but will affect the true blue tories in shires much more than the gammons. As levelling up clearly becomes BS that will affect the red wall though. You can only lie for so long until people notice, where has Johnson got left to go?