NJS 4411 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 I know he's far too "right on" and is especially soft on Islam but he did both support and criticise Corbyn when it was warranted and he did welcome Starmer based on his pledges. It's only since he's reneged on a few of them and failed to oppose Johnson effectively that's he's turned on him. I do believe he genuinely wants a socialist government for what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5302 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 51 minutes ago, Renton said: Naaah. Owen tweeting anti-Starmer drivel in response to Johnson's abortion of a speech isn't normal imo. We'll agree to disagree. I'm fine with that as ever, but I do want to point out as a final note that had the 'bash the left' play worked, and the polls had reflected that, I think it would be much harder for Jones to make the argument he's making. It's an open goal because it was a poorly thought out strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 22004 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) Do polls usually shift after opposition party conferences? Honestly no idea. I don't think Labour has dropped in popularity though and Johnson is plummeting in the popularity stakes, isn't he? Honestly, better get this shit out the way now than next year. Edited October 6, 2021 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5302 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Fair. No idea on the polls tbh - last week Labour were down but I'm struggling to see anyone rallying to Johnson at the moment, even the Mail is tearing him apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31218 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 I'm not sure the Mail has fully turned against him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35595 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Right wing press will rally behind him/the next Tory mercenary come the General Election 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46064 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 29 minutes ago, ewerk said: I'm not sure the Mail has fully turned against him. "Gottle o' geer!" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31218 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) On 05/10/2021 at 10:32, Dr Gloom said: is the beeb fighting back? 'I can confirm that the beeb are not fighting back'. Edited October 7, 2021 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35595 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 But infighting in the Labour Party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5302 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Christ that's pathetic from the BBC. Not even trying to hide it. Sycophants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22177 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 i know it's the little-watched newsnight but this is great analysis from its leftie correspondent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35595 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Looks like Bruce’s how’s the bacon question was more prescient than any of us could’ve imagined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31218 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 On 06/10/2021 at 15:30, NJS said: One of Starmer's 10 pledges was to abolish UC - in all his responses to the cut or at conference did he use that to actually present something different? No fucking chance as we all know now he lied through his teeth to get elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4411 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Fair enough. Same decisiveness on other stuff would be welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31218 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 You don’t announce your manifesto two years ahead of an election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4411 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Not asking for a manifesto - just answers to questions that show good intent. UC cut is shit - what would you do - I'd scrap it and replace it with something fairer. Good. NIC rise is shit - what would you do - I'd raise money by increasing tax on unearned and investment income. Good. Just an end to being scared of upsetting his focus groups of floating tory voters and actually standing for something - anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35595 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Ah, so that’s who’s to blame? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31218 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Not the fella lying by the pool then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4411 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Duncan Smith reckons this working from home lark didn't happen during the blitz. What a fucking imbecile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15731 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 People didn't leave comments on Daily Mail articles supporting him during the Blitz either. It's a fucking paradox and no mistake. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Watching this Merson thing on BBC One has me wondering about the Gambling Act 2005. Is it Labour's biggest act of harm to work classes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31218 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I dunno. Was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20758 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 https://www.constructionenquirer.com/2021/10/11/big-hs2-tunnel-segment-factory-to-be-built-in-hartlepool/ Some decent news for the Hangers like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 43089 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Boring job that, like. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20758 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Not half. Have you been to a PCC warehouse? Feck me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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