Isegrim 9772 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 33 minutes ago, ewerk said: Another masterpiece from led by donkeys for sure. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jonathan-gullis-unemployed-job-interviews-tory-mp-b2621254.html 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Funny thing about Gullis is that he was clearly shite at the grift. So he basically sold his soul for nothing. Also, he’d be the first person criticising people for having kids they can’t afford 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11374 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Pretty sure the Tories were always big on the unemployed retraining for available jobs, surely he should be practicing what he preaches? Unless he's just a massive fucking hypocrite of course 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Yeah, especially as teaching’s another thing he’s probably shit at 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11374 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 12 minutes ago, Alex said: Yeah, especially as teaching’s another thing he’s probably shit at Read somewhere he taught at about three schools in five years, which tells it's own story 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 13 minutes ago, Sonatine said: Read somewhere he taught at about three schools in five years, which tells it's own story 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44851 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Imagine having teaching experience and yet not being able to get a job as a teacher in 2024, with chronic staffing shortages. He's obviously got an absolutely stinking reputation around his local education authority. I wonder if he's ever had a job that he hasn't been a complete waster at. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11374 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 43 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Imagine having teaching experience and yet not being able to get a job as a teacher in 2024, with chronic staffing shortages. He's obviously got an absolutely stinking reputation around his local education authority. I wonder if he's ever had a job that he hasn't been a complete waster at. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17246 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4378 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Or another view- his choice of admistrator has been forced out by the horrible people around him who thinking they've "crushed the left" due to their brilliance are now fighting amongst themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30598 Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 It seems strange to say the least. He was happy to take the flak for her salary as obviously he thought she was worth it to giving her the heave ho just a couple of weeks later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Third view is she’s telling the truth and she’s stepping down because people like Peston are obsessed with making her the story (to paraphrase). And she’s still working for no. 10 as a special adviser. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 18 minutes ago, Alex said: Third view is she’s telling the truth and she’s stepping down because people like Peston are obsessed with making her the story (to paraphrase). And she’s still working for no. 10 as a special adviser. Yeah, that's my take on it. They're fucking desperate for a story oozing of corruption from the new government that they're latching on anything. This isn't one they'd have let go of easily so it's probably best all round that she (officially) steps down. The level of desperation from the media is getting pathetic. Take the donations for instance - whilst I fundamentally disagree with them accepting donations, I'm fairly certain the majority of sitting cabinet ministers over the past few decades will all have accepted liked-minded donations without this level of scrutiny so why the hysteria about it now? And the same outlets who are outraged right now didn't seem to have much issue with Sunak chartering government choppers to transport him from central London to Southampton at his convenience. Starmer's returned the donations - the right thing to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 8 minutes ago, Craig said: Yeah, that's my take on it. They're fucking desperate for a story oozing of corruption from the new government that they're latching on anything. This isn't one they'd have let go of easily so it's probably best all round that she (officially) steps down. The level of desperation from the media is getting pathetic. Take the donations for instance - whilst I fundamentally disagree with them accepting donations, I'm fairly certain the majority of sitting cabinet ministers over the past few decades will all have accepted liked-minded donations without this level of scrutiny so why the hysteria about it now? And the same outlets who are outraged right now didn't seem to have much issue with Sunak chartering government choppers to transport him from central London to Southampton at his convenience. Starmer's returned the donations - the right thing to do. The donations were all within the rules. You can argue the rules need changing but that wasn’t the argument being made under the previous government from those in the press. Same people made very little of the contracts awarded to Tory’s mates. The ones that had loads of red flags for corruption and amounted to billions of pounds of public funds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4378 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Within the rules sounds okay but the question for me is the quid pro quo. The gcse flat and other gift donor was given a no 10 pass. The tax haven based company who gave 4m had their associate appointed to a climate role. Not tory level corruption but still not right imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 11 minutes ago, Alex said: The donations were all within the rules. You can argue the rules need changing but that wasn’t the argument being made under the previous government from those in the press. Same people made very little of the contracts awarded to Tory’s mates. The ones that had loads of red flags for corruption and amounted to billions of pounds of public funds Exactly. We can argue whether the rules are morally correct until the cows come home but within the rules they were. Starmer's decision to hand them back is founded in morality as opposed to being found out. Don't even get me started on contracts for Tory's mates. Michelle Mone needs locking up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 (edited) 17 minutes ago, NJS said: Within the rules sounds okay but the question for me is the quid pro quo. The gcse flat and other gift donor was given a no 10 pass. The tax haven based company who gave 4m had their associate appointed to a climate role. Not tory level corruption but still not right imo. I do agree with you actually. I take issue with false equivalence from the press though. But there’s definitely been some PR own goals that allows for the ‘they’re all the same’ narrative. Which plays into Reform’s hands Edited October 7 by Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35077 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 And by that I mean relatively small private gifts being received is not in anyway shape or form the same as giving away billions of pounds of public money to your mates 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 (edited) Tugendhat out of the leadership race. So it's either Cleverly or one of the bat-shit-crazy duo Edited October 8 by Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6682 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Share of the votes: Cleverly - 39 Jenrick - 31 Badenoch - 30 Tugendhat - 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44851 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 If you assume most of Tommy Tit's lot break to Cleverly, he might have enough votes to decide who he'd rather face in the final two. Which, given Jenrick's shit showing at their conference and Badenoch's popularity with the membership, you'd pick him, and lend some of your votes to get him over the line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21606 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 2 minutes ago, Gemmill said: If you assume most of Tommy Tit's lot break to Cleverly, he might have enough votes to decide who he'd rather face in the final two. Which, given Jenrick's shit showing at their conference and Badenoch's popularity with the membership, you'd pick him, and lend some of your votes to get him over the line. Makes sense. Bad news. Cleverley and Jenrick are the worst candidates for me. Cleverley, because he is easily their best candidate. Jenrick, cos he's utterly malevolent but might have an outside chance somehow. Badenoch would be hopeless and quite amusing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Cleverley isn't exactly a vote for change. He's got the stink from the last regime all over him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44851 Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 (edited) We know that, but he's gonna get the equivalent of being carried around on a sedan chair for the next 4 years by the majority of the press in this country. Treated like the man who would be king. Edited October 8 by Gemmill 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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